Missing LA Area Sailor; Boat Aground in Santa Monica

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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
(I hope I'm not violating any copywrites here. This is sourced form the LA Times blog site)



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Sailboat runs aground in Venice; search on for missing skipper [Updated]

May 23, 2010 | 9:24 pm
A search involving air and sea rescue teams was underway off the Los Angeles County coastline for a possible missing man after a 26-foot sailboat washed ashore Sunday afternoon with no one on board.
The boat’s skipper, Tom Kirschbaum, 55, of Los Angeles, was participating in a race between Catalina Island and Marina del Rey, said county fire Inspector Matt Levesque. Kirschbaum left the island about 9:30 Sunday morning.
[Updated at 10:15 p.m. Kirschbaum's wife, Gayle, said her husband, a partner at the Irell & Manella law firm, had completed the race to Catalina and was returning to Marina del Rey on Sunday.
She said he was an experienced solo sailor and had participated in the Transpac open-ocean race to Hawaii. "He was very sensible," she said. "If it was too rough, he wouldn't go."
"If he wasn't feeling well or anything, he would have stayed in Catalina."
She said he e-mailed before he left Sunday from Emerald Bay near the Two Harbors area of Catalina and everything appeared fine. She said she understood a GPS device found on board showed the boat had sailed a straight course from Catalina toward the Palos Verdes Peninsula area before turning north.]
The boat ran aground in Venice near the Navy Street lifeguard tower about 3:30 p.m.
It was not immediately clear if windy, unstable weather was involved. “We did have extremely high surf and wind conditions,” Levesque said. Kirschbaum, who was on board alone, apparently was an experienced sailor and the vessel was well maintained with sophisticated electronic equipment, Levesque said. A cellphone and GPS device were found on the boat, and the Coast Guard used information stored on the location device to aid in the search.
Several Los Angeles County lifeguard and Fire Department boats were crisscrossing an area up to three miles off the coast Sunday evening. Coast Guard and Fire Department aircraft were searching overhead. The search area was expected to be expanded overnight, Levesque said.
--Rich Connell
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
W winds 15 to 25 kt with occasional gusts to 35 kt. Combined seas 8 to 10 ft dominant period 9 seconds. That was about the same forecast for yesterday.
The day sails with our Meetup group was cancelled because of the weather.
If he washed up in Venice beach he was probably either on autopilot or got hit by a large swell as he was approaching the north marina entrance. When the swells are high and the tide is low that entrance can get a little hairy.
My heart goes out to his wife and loved ones, I can't imagine what my wife would be going through at a time like this.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-sailboat-found,0,1121182.story
 
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zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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he left catalina under double red flag warnings and disappeared from his boat--ye do not sail from catalina during double red flag....asking for big trouble--i hope they find him but i doubt they will--is a shame folks donot observe the warnings more carefully--that is a treacherous channel crossing in small craft double red warnings. even t he most experienced of sailors get into trouble during those in that particular channel......i feel badly for the family----why was he goingou in those conditions anyway!!?? surely nothing is as important as life and limb.....
 
Oct 28, 2008
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When sailing solo I make it a habit to always wear my inflatable PFD, with a handheld VHF attached to it (and a safety tether too, when possible). A PFD alone would only be marginally useful if I fell overboard and had to watch the boat sail away on autopilot. I don't know how effective a small VHF would be at sea level, but I'd at least have a pretty good chance of being able to contact the CG or a nearby vessel.

--Michael
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
That's probably the smartest thing you can do, tether a handheld VHF radio to you and a flashlight or strobe. He was wearing a PFD but the water temp is going to get you fast this time of year.

PS: still missing as of 10:00 AM PST Monday
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
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Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Search Suspended

I just saw a UP story which reported the CG had suspended the search for the skipper. I talked to a friend of mine who was supposed to come home from Catalina the same day and held over. He said the seas were very confused and breaking all over and wind gusts were shifting a great deal. All in all a challenging ride back for the missing skipper, but not something he would not have experienced before given his singlehanding background. Too bad.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
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When sailing solo I make it a habit to always wear my inflatable PFD, with a handheld VHF attached to it (and a safety tether too, when possible). A PFD alone would only be marginally useful if I fell overboard and had to watch the boat sail away on autopilot. I don't know how effective a small VHF would be at sea level, but I'd at least have a pretty good chance of being able to contact the CG or a nearby vessel.

--Michael

Please, please, PLEASE stop thinking a PFD is any use at all in solo sailing! Once you and your boat are parted, you're dead, PFD or no PFD. Forget the PFD and wear a HARNESS that keeps you on the boat. Properly set up and easy to use so you will use it all the time.

The skipper in the tragety above may or may not have worn a PFD, but guaranteed he didn't wear a harness and was swept overboard.

druid - 30-year veteran of solo sailing
 
Oct 22, 2005
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Hunter 44DS Redondo Beach, CA
Here's the part I don't get:
It was determined that the sailor of the boat had participated in a sailboat race Sunday, according to County fire officials.
Who runs a sailboat race under gale warnings?
 
Oct 28, 2008
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Please, please, PLEASE stop thinking a PFD is any use at all in solo sailing! Once you and your boat are parted, you're dead, PFD or no PFD. Forget the PFD and wear a HARNESS that keeps you on the boat. Properly set up and easy to use so you will use it all the time.
Yes, I do know that a PFD alone is virtually useless... as I mentioned, I do keep a handheld VHF on me, and I do sometimes use a safety tether (my PDF has a tether attachment). I don't use it the tether all the time, but I probably should. However, and maybe I'm not using it correctly, but it would seem like if I were to fall overboard (especially when up on the deck), I would be left hanging off the side of the boat with marginal potential for getting back up... what's the proper way to employ a tether that lets you get back into the boat without assistance?

--Michael
 
May 24, 2010
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Catalina C36 Alamitos Bay, So CA
Here's the part I don't get:

Who runs a sailboat race under gale warnings?
I suggest the intended meaning of this is: The "Race" was a two-day affair of the Long Beach YC. With the Saturday leg completed, the posting of the Gale warnings on Sunday morning resulted the the "Race" being cancelled, allowing the entrants to choose the safest route to home port, or stay on Catalina Island until the weather subsided. I actually heard the VHF broadcast on ch 9 and 68(?) that morning, as I was there as a non-race participant.

Planning on returning home to Alamitos Bay that Sunday (5-23), being moored in Fourth of July Cove adjacent to Two Harbors, I awoke to the rigging howling in the wind at 4 am, pulled up the NWS Marine Weather to see the 25-35kts, gusts to 40kts prediction, and called Catalina Express at 6 am to book 6 of us on the 2 pm return boat. Watching the seas from the stern (outside) of the high speed Express catamaran, I was only too happy that I made that decision - it was a washtub out there!
 
Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Lee:

Remember Sydney-Hobart!

Obviously it was not that bad on the race over there.

We just had on off the SF coast this weekend too.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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that channel is a very dangerous one in gale and double red flag situations. there are many who have found themselves in deeep doodoo there --even very experienced sailors have found minimum of knockdown---boats have sunk and gone missing there in these conditions. anyone sailing out in these conditions needs more than merely psychiatric assistance--they need lockdown. pfd will NOT help here--need a tether that is not too long, so one doesnt get over the rail in the first place and one needs the brains required to stay in port for these situations. this is not a channel to be looked down at or taken for granted--is mayhem in bad weather----is awesome in good weather--but once the red flags start coming out--stay home or stay in port. hopefully folks learn from others bad mistakes--however, the lesson is usually easily forgotten and folks donot remember to the next week what happened -- and then repeat the problem .....the water temp is only 55-60 degrees--doesnt keep you alive long.....do the math for hypothermia----there is no swimming to safety in this water, especially when it is in turbulence. when the red goes up--stay home--stay in port. only way to do it.

is very sad when someone goes missing in any waters--i hope more folks will pay attention to this--but i know most wont and we will have to read this kind of wasted life loss again....
 
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