Misc Issues

mjsb

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Jan 28, 2021
56
Hunter 31 0 TSS, Apollo Beach FL
First let's be honest new Boaters do stupid things, and I am no different. The boat is a Hunter 31, 1987, Yanmar 2GM20F. In October of last year while still learning which was up, the Admiral and I were on our way back in to the canal system and to our slip, we were about a half mile from the channel entrance and would still have another 3/4 mile trip to the slip. There develops a smell like boiling water, but no alarm. I brought the engine down to idle, went below and steam was coming off the engine, it was a mid 90's day and I had plenty of water on board so I kept the engine running and dousing it with water. Got the boat docked and let everything cool down. The sea water pump literally hung on the engine and when the pulley was removed it fell apart in my hands. I replaced both pumps, belts all the hoses, new anti-freeze, oil, and fuel pump and filters.
Engine was fired up up but continued to run hot, so I cleaned out the heat exchanger, replaced gaskets, and replaced the mixing elbow and the exhaust header. Reset the timing on the valves, a local yanmar tech gave the valve setting of .008, now thinking that this was metric that was a wide gap, so I set to the valves to a gap of .008 metric. Closed up the valve covers, reinstalled the belts and attempted to start the engine. The smoke coming out of the exhaust was unreal, backfiring. I shut everything down. And sat there, lost.
went home did a ton of research on the settings and found that .008 is inches and not metric , metric is .2 mm, I reset the valves and everything seems to be okay, with some "minor black smoke'.
In January we took the boat out to watch a local regatta, and while under sail using the foresail the boat caught a major wind shift, (3 of the boats in the race spilled over) and we suddenly found ourselves healing to starboard with water almost coming over the starboard coaming of the cockpit, I straightened us up, we had lost a fender and I headed back to do a pickup. Off we went for the rest of the day, later we started the engine and boom started and stopped. A line was caught in the prop. We got towed to our slip.
So the next item was to get the bottom done, wet sanded, compounded and waxed the hull, new seacocks, do the stuffing box. All done all good. I bring it back to our slip and I am getting ready to paint the deck do some spider cracks and I am leaning over the stern and I look down and from the water line up about 6" i am looking at what I can only describe as black soot.
So now I ask where is the soot coaming from and so uniformly across the stern. Any help would be appreciated.
After all who thought you'd have so many issues with the engine on a sailboat.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
7,774
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
Normally Black smoke = Engine burning oil

Hopefully no more Backfires on the engine.

How many engine hours on your Yanmar?
Jim...
 
May 12, 2004
1,505
Hunter Cherubini 30 New Port Richey
Just had the same issue. Picked up some mono fishing line around the shaft between the prop and strut. Couldn't get over 2200 rpms. Because of the line preventing the shaft from rotating freely, the exhaust was spewing black smoke, ( unburned fuel ), that blackened my transom. I'm sure that's what happened to you. Still having some rpm issues after the line was removed ( I hope my diver got it all ), but if not resolved soon will ask for advice in a new thread. Don't want to hi-jack this one.
 

mjsb

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Jan 28, 2021
56
Hunter 31 0 TSS, Apollo Beach FL
Normally Black smoke = Engine burning oil

Hopefully no more Backfires on the engine.

How many engine hours on your Yanmar?
Jim...
No more backfires
Engine Hours 1078
Oil consumption is nil.
 
May 1, 2011
5,045
Pearson 37 Lusby MD
That doesn't look too bad. When I spent an extended time motoring in following seas, I got soot on my transom from the engine exhaust. Any chance you experienced something similar?
 

mjsb

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Jan 28, 2021
56
Hunter 31 0 TSS, Apollo Beach FL
My biggest concern with all that the engine has been thru, especially with the backfiring and heavy smoke, is the possibility that the fuel injectors are fouled from the soot and carbon. Even though the engine ran for less than a minute while backfiring, I am just concerned.
To all who have responded thanks.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,261
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
On my boat I had the same black soot line. The engine was exhausting some un-burnt fuel. It could come from several the symptoms you identified. For me it was bad prop. The results are the same. Un-burnt fuel leaving a soot line on the stern.

Your question about the injectors is a possible solution idea. It sounds like your doing everything to optimize the engine performance. Having the injectors serviced on a new to you boat seems a reasonable action. I just did that on my boat. The service tech told me the injectors needed it.
 
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mjsb

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Jan 28, 2021
56
Hunter 31 0 TSS, Apollo Beach FL
On my boat I had the same black soot line. The engine was exhausting some un-burnt fuel. It could come from several the symptoms you identified. For me it was bad prop. The results are the same. Un-burnt fuel leaving a soot line on the stern.

Your question about the injectors is a possible solution idea. It sounds like your doing everything to optimize the engine performance. Having the injectors serviced on a new to you boat seems a reasonable action. I just did that on my boat. The service tech told me the injectors needed it.
Do you mind if I ask what your injector service involved and a budget $
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,261
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
No...
I Removed 4 injectors. 2 had broken hold downs.
Service company took the injectors apart. Cleaned them. Reassembled the injector, set and tested the spray pattern to engine specs. Returned them with the proper washers ready for install. Cost $170 each.
Company explains they capabilities on their website.
 
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May 12, 2004
1,505
Hunter Cherubini 30 New Port Richey
Yep, unburnt fuel. Looks just like my transom did before cleaning. Burning oil generally causes a bluish exhaust but does not leave that big a mess on the transom. I use this product to remove and put a bit of wax on the surface.
 
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RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
1,742
Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
If your engine is difficult to start you may see this result.
 
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