Has any one added midships cleats to their H26? I've been kicking around the idea for a long time, but not sure how to proceed. Was thinking about putting them a little aft of the shrouds on the deck/hull lip, but not sure that's the best way to go or exactly how to do it. Any help would be appreciated. Ron Mehringer h26 Hydro-Therapy
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Someone Had Done Just That
It is my list of things to do when I get caught up with other projects. He used a piece of tubing or pipe as a backing plate. There is another boat that added cleats to the side of the bow above the rubrail and used deck plates in the anchor well to gain access to put in backing plates.
It is my list of things to do when I get caught up with other projects. He used a piece of tubing or pipe as a backing plate. There is another boat that added cleats to the side of the bow above the rubrail and used deck plates in the anchor well to gain access to put in backing plates.
Be sure to thru bolt it
Be sure that where ever you put it you can thru bolt it. Do not just screw it to the deck/hull lip. Make sure you use some kind of backing plate and the proper sealer. Boats with Genoa tracks can buy a cleat that slides onto the track for a mid ship cleat.
Be sure that where ever you put it you can thru bolt it. Do not just screw it to the deck/hull lip. Make sure you use some kind of backing plate and the proper sealer. Boats with Genoa tracks can buy a cleat that slides onto the track for a mid ship cleat.
Where the HELL is Lake Wallenpaupack?
Hi Ron, I'm in Pittsburgh, sail at Moraine State Park. I have never heard of your lake, where is it? Would like to hear about it. Thanks, George
Hi Ron, I'm in Pittsburgh, sail at Moraine State Park. I have never heard of your lake, where is it? Would like to hear about it. Thanks, George
Wallenpaupack
George - Lake Wallenpaupack is PA's largest lake and it's located in the poconos, about half an hour east of Scranton. Ron
George - Lake Wallenpaupack is PA's largest lake and it's located in the poconos, about half an hour east of Scranton. Ron
H26 Midship Cleats
This is straightforward. The lip of the rubrail makes it easy. I had the dealer install midship cleats before I picked up my H260. As noted, you should thrubolt the cleats and provide some backing. You can put them anywhere you want.
This is straightforward. The lip of the rubrail makes it easy. I had the dealer install midship cleats before I picked up my H260. As noted, you should thrubolt the cleats and provide some backing. You can put them anywhere you want.
Hey Ron, see you have moved the boat again.
Even though I've been told not too, been using the jam cleats for the jib sheets that way. Thought about placing a set on the hull deck joint but there is not much room at all for line. Certainly that area is strong enough. Also considered using the vertical part of the deck but it's way too thin and weak (found that out when putting in a vent for a pumpable portapottie). The horizontal part of the deck is really strong and cored and so that might be a better area but would involve drilling through core then sealing with epoxie and drilling again. alan
Even though I've been told not too, been using the jam cleats for the jib sheets that way. Thought about placing a set on the hull deck joint but there is not much room at all for line. Certainly that area is strong enough. Also considered using the vertical part of the deck but it's way too thin and weak (found that out when putting in a vent for a pumpable portapottie). The horizontal part of the deck is really strong and cored and so that might be a better area but would involve drilling through core then sealing with epoxie and drilling again. alan
But why
I mean they might look very nice but why would you need them. Whenever I tie up along side a jetty I use the cleats on the opposite side ( if she is laying with her port side against the jetty use the starboard cleats) to tie the stern and bow lines as set out and recomended in most sailing books and use the cleats on the jetty side to attach springers.
I mean they might look very nice but why would you need them. Whenever I tie up along side a jetty I use the cleats on the opposite side ( if she is laying with her port side against the jetty use the starboard cleats) to tie the stern and bow lines as set out and recomended in most sailing books and use the cleats on the jetty side to attach springers.
So many lines, so few cleats.
Mark, the 26 has only one foward and two at the stern. For short tie ups mid ship breast lines work well and easy to handle. I use the jam cleats for spring lines when tied up to pilings. Some berths have pilings that are not set out as far as the stern. Spring lines definately needed there. Given that senerio, immagine two bow lines and one bow spring at the foward cleat. alan
Mark, the 26 has only one foward and two at the stern. For short tie ups mid ship breast lines work well and easy to handle. I use the jam cleats for spring lines when tied up to pilings. Some berths have pilings that are not set out as far as the stern. Spring lines definately needed there. Given that senerio, immagine two bow lines and one bow spring at the foward cleat. alan
Use the Winches instead of mounting another cleat
Just tie a loop with a bowline and use the winches - they are strong, backplated etc. Make a great place for a spring line from a bow or stern dock cleat.
Just tie a loop with a bowline and use the winches - they are strong, backplated etc. Make a great place for a spring line from a bow or stern dock cleat.
Short finger piers
The main reason I'd like midships cleats is because in my slip the finger piers are only 20' long. Using the winches is a good idea and I've done that before, but I think all boats should have a cleat midship. Hull deck seam is the logical location but, as mentioned, it doesn't leave much room for line. Alan, yes I've moved again. Started on Lake Hopatcong in NJ: close to home but poor sailing. Went to Barnegat Bay in NJ: GREAT sailing but too much road traffic. Now we bought a lake home on Wallenpaupack: expect mediocre sailing, at best, but the commute is good and location is beautiful. Funny that I've never trailer sailed, but having a trailerable boat has allowed me to call more than one location my home port. Ron Mehringer
The main reason I'd like midships cleats is because in my slip the finger piers are only 20' long. Using the winches is a good idea and I've done that before, but I think all boats should have a cleat midship. Hull deck seam is the logical location but, as mentioned, it doesn't leave much room for line. Alan, yes I've moved again. Started on Lake Hopatcong in NJ: close to home but poor sailing. Went to Barnegat Bay in NJ: GREAT sailing but too much road traffic. Now we bought a lake home on Wallenpaupack: expect mediocre sailing, at best, but the commute is good and location is beautiful. Funny that I've never trailer sailed, but having a trailerable boat has allowed me to call more than one location my home port. Ron Mehringer
Here's what I do without midship cleats
Some of you may cringe at this... You can't see it in the picture, but on my H23.5 I have a short length of 5/8" or so line going from one shroud U-bolt to the other, with a stopper knot at each end to hold it. I give my spring lines 2 or 3 wraps and tie them off back at the dock cleat. The line ends go through the U-bolts, and around the back between the bolts and the hull. Tie the stopper knots to the sides of the U-bolts. When you pull it snug the knots settle mostly behind the U-bolts, and a loop of rope hangs out for the spring lines to wrap around. I had intended to replace the line every year but after three seasons it shows little sign of wear. ...RickM...
Some of you may cringe at this... You can't see it in the picture, but on my H23.5 I have a short length of 5/8" or so line going from one shroud U-bolt to the other, with a stopper knot at each end to hold it. I give my spring lines 2 or 3 wraps and tie them off back at the dock cleat. The line ends go through the U-bolts, and around the back between the bolts and the hull. Tie the stopper knots to the sides of the U-bolts. When you pull it snug the knots settle mostly behind the U-bolts, and a loop of rope hangs out for the spring lines to wrap around. I had intended to replace the line every year but after three seasons it shows little sign of wear. ...RickM...
Here's what I do without midship cleats
Some of you may cringe at this... I couldn't upload a picture just now, but on my H23.5 I have a short length of 5/8" or so line going from one shroud U-bolt to the other, with a stopper knot at each end to hold it. I give my spring lines 2 or 3 wraps and tie them off back at the dock cleat. The line ends go through the U-bolts, and around the back between the bolts and the hull. Tie the stopper knots to the sides of the U-bolts. When you pull it snug the knots settle mostly behind the U-bolts, and a loop of rope hangs out for the spring lines to wrap around. I had intended to replace the line every year but after three seasons it shows little sign of wear. ...RickM...
Some of you may cringe at this... I couldn't upload a picture just now, but on my H23.5 I have a short length of 5/8" or so line going from one shroud U-bolt to the other, with a stopper knot at each end to hold it. I give my spring lines 2 or 3 wraps and tie them off back at the dock cleat. The line ends go through the U-bolts, and around the back between the bolts and the hull. Tie the stopper knots to the sides of the U-bolts. When you pull it snug the knots settle mostly behind the U-bolts, and a loop of rope hangs out for the spring lines to wrap around. I had intended to replace the line every year but after three seasons it shows little sign of wear. ...RickM...
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