max crew-laden weight-im restoring hull floor.

[wulfe67]

hello,im wondering if the wood deck in the hull floor when first made counted against the 628lb displacesment,im going to replace and im wondering what wood was used on original.im probaly going with pine its light and inexpesive and stain then pollyurethane.it will be removable in 2 sections.what is max crew,or laden weight ,is 628lb a number i can use or is that for max racing peformance.this was my dads boat andhas been in restoation since his passing in 06,and i hope to get it ready for this season,im close,still have to make a tiller/rudder and replace a alum spar tube and ropes so any help about the floor would help wulfe67

 

[emergpa1]

hello,im wondering if the wood deck in the hull floor when first made counted against the 628lb displacesment,im going to replace and im wondering what wood was used on original.im probaly going with pine its light and inexpesive and stain then pollyurethane.it will be removable in 2 sections.what is max crew,or laden weight ,is 628lb a number i can use or is that for max racing peformance.this was my dads boat andhas been in restoation since his passing in 06,and i hope to get it ready for this season,im close,still have to make a tiller/rudder and replace a alum spar tube and ropes so any help about the floor would help wulfe67

i'm not sure the weight diff would matter that much from one type of wood to the next for that type of a project?!? Pine should work if you seal it, as you intend, with poly-u.
the post seems a little scizophrenic, but maybe i am the one confused. no insult intended, just hard to decipher what you mean.
wood deck...do you mean the bilge cover? or do you mean that you are replacing the sole? Surely you are not concerned about the difference between the weight of a pine bilge cover vs a teak and holly bilge cover? Or am I just totally ignorant of that regarding boat performance. If so, i beg pardon
keith

 

[Sunbird22358]

Do you mean the removeable (usually slatted) wooden floorboards? I am assuming that you have an old DAY SAILER I? If so, I'd check out the DSA web site (www.daysailer.org) for ideas, it sounds like you plan to race and if anyone would have great ideas about replacing the floorboards.... the active racers on the DS Class web site will be the ones! However, most racers tend to leave the floorboards ashore while racing, since every little bit of weight "slows them down" <grin!>. From what I can find, the Class Rules do not include the weight of the floorboards in the minimum weight of 575#, so they are not "required".
The 628# figure is what O'DAY listed as minimum "trailering" weight, that is boat, mast, boom, rudder, sails, and floorboards. Maximum crew weight would be around 600-900# if you take the figures that O'DAY listed of a crew of 4-6 people (150# ea.).
575# is the minimum weight of the boat to be "class-legal", but there is no maximum weight figure, except for the weight of the centerboard can not exceed 25#.
I believe the original floorboards were mahogany strips or plywood, but I've heard of some owners who replaced them with other materials, including pine wood.
If you need to replace the rudder, the easiest way is to order one from D&R Marine (www.drmarine.com) or from Cape Cod Shipbuiding (www.capecodshipbuilding.com) neither will be cheap, but the rudder from CCSB will definitely be class-legal and the D&R one "should" be (but be sure Rudy does make the correct one!). If you decide to make your own, it should be much less costly, however be sure to consult the drawings contained in the DSA Handbook (Measurement Specs) as posted on the DAY SAILER Class web site.

 

[wulfe67]

thank u very helpful

thanks to sunbird & enerrpa very much appericiated,im not very good on a computer when it comes to forums or emails,i do want to race but imust learn to capt.,my dad new alot,and i was with him,but since he passed in 06 and hadnt been seaward since 04,ive been restoring it.im putting a cabin light,bulkhead courtisy lite and a tricolor mast lite,and a 12v acessery plug for cell phone or a hand spot.all on toggels.i made a rudder out of 3/4 plywood-stained then meshed and am fiberglassing it,its weighted an doesnt fold,so i got to watch clearnce.im saving my pennies to by one but that will take time.i figure when done itll weigh 12- 15 lbs.the floor is for fishing and leisure trips.im going to put pics up soon and hope to get it in the water soon:dance:i named her EDEL WEISS mfg#2954,67-71 if i guess when made comparing to other owners mfg#s?

 

[Sunbird22358]

Where are you located? I ask because I used to know someone whose Dad used to own an old DS I (might have been a DS II?) named EDELWEISS, I believe he sold the boat about 10-12 years ago (I kind of lost track of them soon after buying my DS II). They were in California and I live in Massachusetts.
Anyway, the name "EDELWEISS" was apparently a play on their last name, which was "WEISS".

 

[wulfe67]

im in southeast pennsylvainia 40mi west of philly40mi east of lancaster in thorndale caln twp 500 yards south of state rd-route bussiness 30,i just named it after the mountian flower,nobel-white is the austrian-german to anglo(english)and my ds 1 didnt have a named on it when my dad bought it in 1991,i picked this name to be-lol original that is funny,my ex-wife'scousin was named weiss!!im going to put up pics soon