Mast raising system

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Sumner

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tkanzler said:
....If you terminate the baby stays slightly forward of the mast hinge, assuming the mast lays down toward the stern, the baby stays will slacken as the mast is raised and the shrouds take over.....
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That is the case with ours....



.... but hasn't presented a problem as like you mentioned by then the shrouds do the job. It isn't important that the mast stay absolutly vertical, just enough so that you aren't bending the deck plate as was mentioned.

I put the mast up a couple times by hand, but I just felt it was too risky for me at this point in my life. One slip or problem and then you have hurt yourself or damaged the boat. If one does it by hand and gets hung up, and it will happen, then it is lower it and start all over again. I think the way to go is either of the factory options, block and tackle or the winch on a pole that they went to later.

Our boat came with a pop-top cover and it uses the same eye straps to ...



http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor-canvas/canvas-2.html

...secure it at the front (arrows) that are use for the mast raising baby stays and I believe the reason they are slightly ahead of the 'ideal location'. This isn't a situation with the X or M since they don't have the pop-top,

Sum

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I'm sorry I should have posted on my reply to Glitzmaster7 that I already have the baby stays they came with the boat, when I bought the boat the PO made me aware of the importance of baby stays, That was one of the things I wanted to do before I bought the boat I wanted the mast raised to see if I could raise it, and that's when he showed me the baby stays, and that's when I also wanted a mast raising system
 
caguy

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Sum, your baby's day anchors look like they are a touch too far forward. I understand that they serve another function and I too did not want to install more hardware and necessary. On mine, the PO install the and one on the other side of the main Halyard. The cheek block for the jib Halyard is perfectly placed just forward of the mast. The cheek block with the main Halyard is lined up with the back side of the mast as it should be. I can tighten the baby stay on the starboard side and it will not change as I raise the mast. However on the port side the baby stay will tighten as the mast is raised. As a result I started out a little bit loose. In the one picture of the cheek block you can see the unfaded paint line from the jib Halyard.
 
Sumner

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caguy said:
Sum, your baby's day anchors look like they are a touch too far forward. ...
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I'm assuming that is the way the factory did it so they could serve two purposes. They work fine there I just have to remember to not tighten them way down when I lower the mast. Just leave a touch of slack in them going down,

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Roadking Larry

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After raising my mast today then coming back and looking at these pics it seems I haf a slightly different set up on my foredeck. I will take some good pics tomorrow. Possibly an owners mod.
 
caguy

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Sum, when are you coming out to Calif again? Missed you last time. BTW if you are coming from Florida there is a motor in Alabama I've had my eye on. ;)
 
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Caguy. Did you know the you keep giving me Sailor 3269 a message and you keep asking Sumner questions. Some how you are sending me responses but again talking to Sumner. BTW I don't mind but I don't think Sumner can answer Unless you are sending your post to both of us. You see I have never been to Florida so I won't be coming from their to go through Alabama. You see I live in Calif. Again I don' t mind. You have a wonderful day and keep smiling,I am
 
Sumner

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caguy said:
Sum, when are you coming out to Calif again? Missed you last time. BTW if you are coming from Florida there is a motor in Alabama I've had my eye on. ;)
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Probably this fall (Oct or Nov). We weren't there but a couple days the last time and were pretty busy with family and dentist stuff. Hopefully we will be there a little longer the next time.

Where is the motor in Alabama and what size is it? We hope to leave Florida within the next two weeks, but might go home thru St. Louis to visit and then wouldn't be in Alabama. If we don't go to St. Louis we still have to go to OK to help Hooley with the race care and then would be cutting through the top part of the state (thru Birmingham). I'm not sure if we have room or not as we are pretty packed now and have to haul race car parts (rear wing and tanks) home from OK,

Sum

p.s. sailor3269 sorry about the out of context banter:cry:.

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Boy now Sumner is sending me Sailor 3269 a post and talking to Caguy, Am I on your e mail, as you are talking to each other but sending the post's to my e mail. You Both might want to look into who you are sending your posts too? BTW to both of you I don't mind I just think it's kind of funny! Since I am not Caguy I don' know what size it is or where it's at, (boy this is fun) Anyone else want to sent me a response that I don' know anything about, NO just kidding. Again to Sumner and Caguy keep smiling because I am
 
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Sailor 3269 said:
Caguy. Did you know the you keep giving me Sailor 3269 a message and you keep asking Sumner questions. Some how you are sending me responses but again talking to Sumner. BTW I don't mind but I don't think Sumner can answer Unless you are sending your post to both of us. You see I have never been to Florida so I won't be coming from their to go through Alabama. You see I live in Calif. Again I don' t mind. You have a wonderful day and keep smiling,I am
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you can turn the email notifiers off to the thread so you dont get the notifications...
you are the op of the thread, but the thread belongs to the forum and anyone is free to post, so if you have your notifier on and set to let you know when someone replies to a thread you have "subscribed" to, you will be notified of any and all activity on those threads....:D
 
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Ok thank- you that now makes seance thank- for clearing that up for me. Ok if I turn that off will that mean when I ask a question, I will not get an answer unless I go to the forum?
 
Sumner

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Yep the board is sending you the e-mails not Frank and I ;). Actually this thread did pretty well getting into the 3rd page before it got off topic :). I use to get excited when threads drifted but now I'm part of the problem :redface:.

I kind of look at these boards as a bunch of us sitting around a cafe or bar talking over coffee or a beer and who knows where a topic will go,

Sum

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Ok now that I know how it works, I will be leaving mine on, I won't be having a beer, but if can see from my posts I like to talk.(I get a very bad reaction if I drink even a half can of beer) but boy do I like sweet drinks Like mi ties and zombies, I tell everyone I am the only person around that can talk Crome off a bumper,BTW what is the difference between a quick reply and a post reply since you can keep typing even in a quick reply
 
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May 12, 2013
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Thank-you I stared reading some of the things, boy is a lot of information, their to read, but when I finish I guess that will cut down on my questions and thank- you again
 
justsomeguy

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You're welcome. These forums are a wealth of information, along with the archives.
 
Roadking Larry

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More ?? on baby stays.

I'm thinking my boat has had semi-permanent baby stays made up. They look to be the same SS wire as the rest of the standing rigging and the swages look to be approxiamately the same age.

They are atached to the mast and them made down to SS fittings n the deck with the same style flat adjusters as the rest of the rigging.

 
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