Thanks! Well that definitely makes sense. I just have never had trouble raising the mainsail without it. I just hoist and sweat the line and I'm good to go.Used primarily to haul up a mainsail and has the advantage over a deck mounted winch of no friction from turning blocks. Disadvantage is location requiring leaving cockpit.
Yup.Also to haul crew up in bosun chair. Though haven't seen much of that lately.
I think sometimes people forget they are talking about a 22 foot trailer sailer!Also to haul crew up in bosun chair. Though haven't seen much of that lately.
Forgiven... the sails of a C22 are no bigger than a large dinghy! Why you need a winch to hoist them is anyones guess.Forgive my ignorance here but what is the purpose of the mast mounted winch?
Good question. The boat's stability is a function of:Bobalong - not sure how stable it would be hauling crew in a bosun's chair on a C22. It would be 150lbs up a 25 foot mast versus a 500lb keel 5 feet below the water line.
Has anyone done it? Is it safe?
I hear that point of view voiced regularly, and it always perplexes me. Getting the wrinkles out of the sails without benefit of a winch can be impossible for me when there's a good breeze blowing, and I'd like to think I'm in better shape than most. If we're talking about single-digit wind, sure. Or not caring about some wrinkles, sure. But proper luff tension in say, 15 knots or more, without a winch? I'm sorry, but I'll have to see that to believe it.Forgiven... the sails of a C22 are no bigger than a large dinghy! Why you need a winch to hoist them is anyones guess.
I love my winches and use the handles to tighten the luff however there not fully necessary either. If you have a nice clean sail track and a down haul or cunningham you can still get the luff tension you want. I have a 6:1 down haul (overkill I know) that will overtighten the luff if I am not careful. The winches however make it easier for my younger or inexperienced crew to raise the sails while we are pointed into the wind. Most racers have eliminated all winches and use a banjo technique for the sheets along with a cunningham or down haul for the mian. Most of us raise the main a bit to high anyway i suppose.I hear that point of view voiced regularly, and it always perplexes me. Getting the wrinkles out of the sails without benefit of a winch can be impossible for me when there's a good breeze blowing, and I'd like to think I'm in better shape than most. If we're talking about single-digit wind, sure. Or not caring about some wrinkles, sure. But proper luff tension in say, 15 knots or more, without a winch? I'm sorry, but I'll have to see that to believe it.
Agreed fully if you are doing it single handed.I hear that point of view voiced regularly, and it always perplexes me. Getting the wrinkles out of the sails without benefit of a winch can be impossible for me when there's a good breeze blowing, and I'd like to think I'm in better shape than most. If we're talking about single-digit wind, sure. Or not caring about some wrinkles, sure. But proper luff tension in say, 15 knots or more, without a winch? I'm sorry, but I'll have to see that to believe it.
If you have a nice clean sail track and a down haul or cunningham you can still get the luff tension you want. I have a 6:1 down haul (overkill I know) that will overtighten the luff if I am not careful.
saves my bacon in that regard as well-- main halyard by hand-- in my case a 4:1 cunningam rigged to the mast plate to set the tensionTrue that. I have neither a downhaul nor a Cunningham.