Major project creep...

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Feb 6, 1998
11,759
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Hi All, I recently purchased a CS36 and hauled her out a week and a half ago to replace a few through hulls. Well this haul out turned into 6 new flanged sea cocks and through hulls, new head hoses, new sink drain, a rebuilt transmission, new prop shaft & faced coupling, new PSS Shaft seal, six new engine cooling hoses, three new stanchion bases, a new anchor roller (major pita), new bilge pump and hose etc. etc... Does this seem to happen to you guys too...
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Mainesail, This is that lovely , pristine boat

that was the object of a thread some few weeks ago? It appeared to be so carefully cared for that I am truly shocked. To devote so much attention on the cosmetics and neglect the mechanicals is astonishing to me. I think that you still got a great boat.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,759
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
It was not..

It was by no means neglected just some items were not up to my stupidly high standards. I will not own a bot without proper flanged sea cocks and the ball valve on the through hull was the standard protocol for many builders throughout the 70's & 80's. The prop shaft could have gone another season as could the PSS and I was the reason for the tranny rebuild because I got PB Blaster on the output shaft seal. But I figured while you have it out you replace it and do it right.... This winter she will get fully re-wired to ABYC standards with new panels, battery cables and everything! Everything works but....
 
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Scott Fuller

Well, let's see...

I removed the bow plate/anchor roller which was cast aluminum and had begun to fail, and rebuilt it with stainless steel. While I was going up and down the ladder, I noticed an unsightly bulge in the side of the rudder, so I put a moisture meter on it, and discovered it had fairly high moisture throughout. I removed the rudder, and ended up taking the fiberglass off about 90% of it, and eventually ended up buying a vacuum pump to dry it out. As long as I had the rudder off, I thought it would be a good time to replace the cutless bearing, and as I pulled the propshaft, I realized it was slightly bent, and badly worn in the area of the old packing gland. This led to a new PSS dripless system, a new stainless propshaft, new magnesium anode for stainless shaft, new cutless bearing, reconditioning of prop, and, since I wanted to make sure I cured all our vibration while I was at it - new engine mounts. While I was dropping the rudder, I also noticed how old the manual bilge pump was, and thought it should be rebuilt. When I discovered it would cost a couple hundred dollars to get the rebuild kit here from wherever the manufacturer was in England, I decided on a new Whale Titan. In the meantime, I removed the holding tank (since we still had a smell even after replacing the head, all the hoses, and adding a second vent to the tank). I still need to order a new tank, just trying to decide how much of the v-berth I want to cut up to get a larger tank in. Also sewed new interior cushions and replaced all the foam, since the old ones also smelled. Sewed a new sailcover since I had navy Sunbrella which I had purchased for piping on the interior cushions. While all that was going on, I also scraped 23 years of bottom paint and VC Tar barrier off the bottom, applied 6 coats of Interprotect 2000e, and a couple coats of ablative bottom paint. And of course, using Maine Sail's helpful guide to buffing and waxing, I polished and waxed the topsides. Some of the work, I let others do, like converting the main to loose footed and replacing the slides, and adding a UV cover to the working jib. Wonder what I would have been able to accomplish if I hadn't seen that bulge in the rudder?
 
Dec 3, 2003
2,101
Hunter Legend 37 Portsmouth, RI
My Mast

I had my mast unstepped this season because last season I bought new instruments to install. But first last year the TD holes had to be glassed and redrilled smaller for the new TD's. I did install them but had to replace tha old wind "bird" for the new one. So I figured that with the mast down it would be easier to do. Well I replaced the old bird with the new one but had no messenger for the cable because the old wire broke somewhere within the mast. So I replaced the VHF antenna and used the old wire as a messenger for the bird wire and pulled tha messenger thru to run the VHF cable back. Now I had to replace the antenna connector and the antennae. Then I noticed that the anchor light should be replaced and the steaming/deck light combo unit should be replaced. Then to remove the mast I had to cut the radar cable because it was after-market and had to be spliced. Then I had to buy and install a radar cable junction box after rerunning the radar cable because it was poorly run the first time. My boat has the mast restepped and is wired and now and launched but, it seems that the job goes on & on and so does the $$$.
 
Jun 9, 2004
165
Hunter 37-cutter San Francisco Bay
Happens every time

yes, it happens. My summer project was going to be redoing the wood trim, turned into a battery problem, turned into an electrical problem maybe including alternator, turned into a leaky salt water filter basket, turned into a leaky salt water pump, turned into waiting on the new pump to be delivered so I can get back on the other stuff. Oh yeah, while dealing with item five (or six?) discovered a suspicious-looking through hull (Lots of corrosion) so now thinking better get it hauled and do the bottom at the same time. Good thing we can sail year round. Sanders s/v Good News
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Used boats

My dream boat - used, of course - ended up needing a new auto pilot, new head hoses, new toilet, new head tank. That's the world of used boats. A CS is a well found yacht, and if your price was good the upgrades will be worth it.
 
Dec 25, 2000
6,052
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Uhh, no...

A good surveyor would have picked up on these problem areas. He did on ours, anyway.
 
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Alex

Scope creep

Project Management 101. Time and budget dictates how much I can do each year. In the north we haul out every year and the sailing season is short. So we do a mad dash in the spring and fall and just put items on a list during the sailing season. Works for me.
 
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