mainsail 'stack pack'

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Greetings, all, after a lapse in order to sail!!
I want to make my O'Day 222 more user friendly by making what some in the industry call a stack pack or cradle for the mainsail...I would appreciate some detailed advice/sketches, etc suitble for a talent-challenged non sewer!!!

I also want to install remote controls for my Nissan 9.8 ob. Scrambling in the cockpit is not as easy as it used to be.Advice?

Thanks so much.
Happy sailing.

R/LDG
 
Joe11688

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grayldma@eastlink.co said:
Greetings, all, after a lapse in order to sail!!
I want to make my O'Day 222 more user friendly by making what some in the industry call a stack pack or cradle for the mainsail...I would appreciate some detailed advice/sketches, etc suitble for a talent-challenged non sewer!!!

I also want to install remote controls for my Nissan 9.8 ob. Scrambling in the cockpit is not as easy as it used to be.Advice?

Thanks so much.
Happy sailing.

R/LDG
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I don't understand the terminology. I'm assuming that you're referring to a sail jock. Here's the one that I use on my O'Day 222. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/sailties/sailties.htm It's easy to make and consists of 3/16" Bungee Cord, plastic hooks which can be purchased at an marine store, and the small stainless steel "C" shaped crimps for the Bungee. I can't help you on the outboard. I'm using an 8 hp two stroke Johnson long shaft on my boat and I'm able to tilt the engine up or down on it's own bracket instead of raising and lowering the outboard bracket on the block. Also, the shift and throttle is right on the front of the engine and very accessible. They do sell a bracket that can fit on your tiller so that you can control the outboard. I don't know much about them though.
Joe
 

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i made a bungee system from joe's pictures a couple years ago. works great. for hooks i ended up using some christmas light gutter hooks. i threaded the closed loop end through one on the bunges and sniped the open end a little wider to allow it to hook the second bunged. works fine, was cheap, and it's eay to undo without those snaps closing the hook over the bunge.

one thing the picture doesn't show well is that you have to connect the two bunges together in sections with a hook in each section. i just used some small line and lashed them together in such a way as to be able to move them along the line to adjust the amount of bunge. (need larger sections toward the mast, smaller toward stern.)

i had a cape dory thypoon which had one bunge hooked directly on the boom at both ends running through some metal "C" loops spaced along the mast. On the opposite side of the mast were some small hooks mounted on the mast in the middle of those "C" loop sections on the bungee side. after rolling the main on itself, you just reached over and grabbed the bunge pulling it over the sail and hooking it. because it was mounted, it made it alittle easier and did not hang down when sailing. the down side is you have to drill the boom and mount hardware.
 
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I get the feeling you aren't looking for a bungee system, but for something made of fabric (since you reference your lack of sewing skills). I know that some new, larger boats come equipped with what looks like a mainsail cover permanently attached to the foot of the sail. When lowered, the sail appears to flake naturally into this pocket, and all the owner has to do is zip it up. I have never seen one of these up close, so I can't help you. I think you will find that most of the mainsail handling systems like that are geared towards larger boats where the size of the sail complicates sail handling and makes the investment in an expensive control system worth it. Having said that, the bungee system described in the other posts on this thread looks very convenient, cheap and easy to install. Someone on my dock had this arrangement on their boat, and it looked very easy to use. However, if you are looking for a way to make the flaking of the main itself easier, you can buy a do-it yourself dutchman system pretty cheaply. The dutchman will keep the sail from flopping all over the boom when you lower it.

For remote outboard controls, you should contact the manufacturer. Although on a boat as small as the 222, I can't imagine where you would put the remote; there just isn't that much room in that cockpit.
 
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grayldma and Joe

Trinkka said:
I don't understand the terminology. I'm assuming that you're referring to a sail jock. Here's the one that I use on my O'Day 222. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/sailties/sailties.htm It's easy to make and consists of 3/16" Bungee Cord, plastic hooks which can be purchased at an marine store, and the small stainless steel "C" shaped crimps for the Bungee. I can't help you on the outboard. I'm using an 8 hp two stroke Johnson long shaft on my boat and I'm able to tilt the engine up or down on it's own bracket instead of raising and lowering the outboard bracket on the block. Also, the shift and throttle is right on the front of the engine and very accessible. They do sell a bracket that can fit on your tiller so that you can control the outboard. I don't know much about them though.
Joe
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grayldma - you really ought to sign onto the forum -

Joe:

Source of information about controls:

http://www.powertiller.net/Adapter_Kits.htm

Ed K
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Special comment for Keith:
 

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regarding the special comment....

Shoaldrafter said:
grayldma - you really ought to sign onto the forum -

Joe:

Source of information about controls:

http://www.powertiller.net/Adapter_Kits.htm

Ed K
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Special comment for Keith:
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Hmmmm....do i take the bait?...nah..... I will just keep pluging away in the E.R. Seeing all people regardless of ability to pay. After all, the E.R was George Bushe's (W) answer to the health care problem. (Remember that comment? He said that even uninsured americans can access health care at the emergency room. Hah. Try asking your e.r.doctor after your four hour wait in the lobby, to remove your bad gallbladder, check your cholesterol, and do a prostate cancer screening test.) The republicans had eight years to fix that mess, they blew it. they were to busy getting us into a war that so far has left over four thousand of our finest dead...that is dead, as in lost husband, lost son, lost brother never coming home dead. That is why i left the republican fold. BTW republicans in washington today are NOT conservatives.
Dang, I ended up taking the bait?:doh:
BTW. remember I am retired military and have two sons in the USAF.
Keith
 
Joe11688

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Re: regarding the special comment....

I agree with that cartoon, Keith. I'm paying about $365.00 a month for my share of health care, and I want no part of what that snake oil salesman is trying to shove down our throats.
 
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Trinkka said:
I agree with that cartoon, Keith. I'm paying about $365.00 a month for my share of health care, and I want no part of what that snake oil salesman is trying to shove down our throats.
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I agree it is an anxious time. And I sure don't know what the right answer is. And I am not really pulling for any particular plan. I just know that alot of people are hurting. I am fortunate to have a choice of affordable health plans.
That is about all the political comments that will come from me. I am really not that passionate about politics
Back to sailing!
keith
 
Joe11688

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emergpa1 said:
I agree it is an anxious time. And I sure don't know what the right answer is. And I am not really pulling for any particular plan. I just know that alot of people are hurting. I am fortunate to have a choice of affordable health plans.
That is about all the political comments that will come from me. I am really not that passionate about politics
Back to sailing!
keith
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Keith,
If you have any questions, feel free to ask my friend Storm'n Norman of Ozark AL. He also spent 21 years in the US Air Force. http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/
Joe
 
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grayldma@eastlink.ca

stack pack

Trinkka said:
I don't understand the terminology. I'm assuming that you're referring to a sail jock. Here's the one that I use on my O'Day 222. http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/sailties/sailties.htm It's easy to make and consists of 3/16" Bungee Cord, plastic hooks which can be purchased at an marine store, and the small stainless steel "C" shaped crimps for the Bungee. I can't help you on the outboard. I'm using an 8 hp two stroke Johnson long shaft on my boat and I'm able to tilt the engine up or down on it's own bracket instead of raising and lowering the outboard bracket on the block. Also, the shift and throttle is right on the front of the engine and very accessible. They do sell a bracket that can fit on your tiller so that you can control the outboard. I don't know much about them though.
Joe
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Thanks, Joe. We have communicated before.I live in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada.We sail an O'Day 222.
The gear I'm referrin to is sometimes called a Mack Pack and was origionally 'invented initially by Doyle. We are going to try to make our own but need diagrams and advice.

The motor controls: where can I get information on the bracket for the tiller?

Again, Thanks.
Cheers.
Fair winds!

Dale
 
Joe11688

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grayldma@eastlink.ca said:
Thanks, Joe. We have communicated before.I live in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada.We sail an O'Day 222.
The gear I'm referrin to is sometimes called a Mack Pack and was origionally 'invented initially by Doyle. We are going to try to make our own but need diagrams and advice.

The motor controls: where can I get information on the bracket for the tiller?

Again, Thanks.
Cheers.
Fair winds!

Dale
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Hi Rev. Dale!
Of course, I remember talking to you. Ed K. posted this site on the motor controls, http://www.powertiller.net/Adapter_Kits.htm but I'm sure there are others. One of the guys in my yacht club has something similar to this on his O'Day 25 and it works pretty good. I think that I have a pretty good idea of what the Mack Pack is. I've seen them advertised for some of the larger sailboats, but I've never seen one up close to examine it. I guess that you'd need to go to a boat show to really see one up close, or maybe you can get an idea from this site:
http://www.macksails.com/mackpack.htm
Good luck with that.
Smooth Sailing!
Joe
 
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