main sheeting
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Nice concept...
How about for those of us who are 6'+ tall.
What kind of work/costs do you estimate such a conversion would take?
Materials?
I believe I saw Vega #1 photos from Sweden with a crowned mohangany
cabin top.
Thanks,
Matt
How about for those of us who are 6'+ tall.
What kind of work/costs do you estimate such a conversion would take?
Materials?
I believe I saw Vega #1 photos from Sweden with a crowned mohangany
cabin top.
Thanks,
Matt
That Vega exists only in Photoshop. I added a scaled-down pilot house
from a Gulf Pilothouse 32. It doesn't look too bad, though. If one
could find a Vega with cabin top damage, and work on a cardboard mock-
up until it looked right ......
It too me two weeks to get my propane locker right, and probably take
me ten years for a project like that! I'll stick with Per Brohall's
version
Peter
#1331 "Sin Tacha'
from a Gulf Pilothouse 32. It doesn't look too bad, though. If one
could find a Vega with cabin top damage, and work on a cardboard mock-
up until it looked right ......
It too me two weeks to get my propane locker right, and probably take
me ten years for a project like that! I'll stick with Per Brohall's
version
Peter
#1331 "Sin Tacha'
In a clumsy, oversized duck sort of way, that is actually pretty cool. Maybe as soon as I finish the dinette, propane locker and head, I'll give it a shot. That gives you all about 5 years to talk me out of it!
Jack,
V2620
Bella
Jack,
V2620
Bella
Hi All
If you really want a little more head room don't go the trouble of modifying an Albin Vega but go buy a Vertue Vertue Owners - Precautions to Taking While Purchasing a New Car!
These boats have a reputation equal to the Vega and have crossed many oceans. They are finished more Rolls Royce than the Vega which I consider a Ford Car finish.
Don't lynch me as I love my Vega to bits and would not part with her for worlds but the Vertue is a lovely little boat.!
David Wisdish
V3283 PonteneurFrom: j.hunter9999
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:25 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
In a clumsy, oversized duck sort of way, that is actually pretty cool. Maybe as soon as I finish the dinette, propane locker and head, I'll give it a shot. That gives you all about 5 years to talk me out of it!
Jack,
V2620
Bella
If you really want a little more head room don't go the trouble of modifying an Albin Vega but go buy a Vertue Vertue Owners - Precautions to Taking While Purchasing a New Car!
These boats have a reputation equal to the Vega and have crossed many oceans. They are finished more Rolls Royce than the Vega which I consider a Ford Car finish.
Don't lynch me as I love my Vega to bits and would not part with her for worlds but the Vertue is a lovely little boat.!
David Wisdish
V3283 PonteneurFrom: j.hunter9999
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:25 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
In a clumsy, oversized duck sort of way, that is actually pretty cool. Maybe as soon as I finish the dinette, propane locker and head, I'll give it a shot. That gives you all about 5 years to talk me out of it!
Jack,
V2620
Bella
Hi David
Would agree, the Virtue is a fine sea boat. Quite a few former Vega owners have swapped their Virtues to purchase a Vega..... Mind you I'm totally biased!
Steve B
Would agree, the Virtue is a fine sea boat. Quite a few former Vega owners have swapped their Virtues to purchase a Vega..... Mind you I'm totally biased!
Steve B
I have a simple makeshift bimini on "VegaLyra",
which can only be deployed with the boom and
the sheet out of the way. That means I can use it
during broad reach and running, which is better
than nothing - that's when the sun feels hottest
given that the apparent wind is little to nil.
- Sebastian
which can only be deployed with the boom and
the sheet out of the way. That means I can use it
during broad reach and running, which is better
than nothing - that's when the sun feels hottest
given that the apparent wind is little to nil.
- Sebastian
any info on moving the main sheeet system in front of dodger useing a vang type set up from each side.....cleatd seperate.....this completly clears out the cockpit for a large bimini.....espin
Hi gang, a vang is a vang - a traveller is a traveller. Do not confuse
the two. Many travelers can be purchased or fabricated to fit the coach
roof in front of the dodger. Use three at least three blocks hanging
from bails attached to the boom for the main sheet and you're off to the
races. In my experience, a good mechanical vang is still essential to
flatten the main when using this set up. Trev V2915 - Mystic Rose
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of espin
Sent: October 15, 2009 10:50 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] main sheeting
any info on moving the main sheeet system in front of dodger useing a
vang type set up from each side.....cleatd seperate.....this completly
clears out the cockpit for a large bimini.....espin
the two. Many travelers can be purchased or fabricated to fit the coach
roof in front of the dodger. Use three at least three blocks hanging
from bails attached to the boom for the main sheet and you're off to the
races. In my experience, a good mechanical vang is still essential to
flatten the main when using this set up. Trev V2915 - Mystic Rose
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of espin
Sent: October 15, 2009 10:50 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] main sheeting
any info on moving the main sheeet system in front of dodger useing a
vang type set up from each side.....cleatd seperate.....this completly
clears out the cockpit for a large bimini.....espin
As I am as far from being a boat design professional as Canada is from South Africa, this is by no means a definitive answer. The Vega's boom in not necessarily the beefiest of booms. Might there be a concern about the forces put on that point of the boom? That said, I'm moving the traveller to the forward part of the cockpit for next year (above the wood cover).
Best of luck.
Jack
Bella - V2620
Best of luck.
Jack
Bella - V2620
Jack, IMHO a three-point attachment to the boom spread over several feet
at the mid boom probably spreads the load better than one point at the
aft end. Trev V2915
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of j.hunter9999
Sent: October 15, 2009 9:35 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
As I am as far from being a boat design professional, this is by no
means a definitive answer. The Vega's boom in not necessarily the
beefiest of booms. Might there be a concern about the forces put on that
point of the boom? That said, I'm moving the traveller to the forward
part of the cockpit for next year (above the wood cover).
Best of luck.
Jack
Bella - V2620
at the mid boom probably spreads the load better than one point at the
aft end. Trev V2915
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of j.hunter9999
Sent: October 15, 2009 9:35 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
As I am as far from being a boat design professional, this is by no
means a definitive answer. The Vega's boom in not necessarily the
beefiest of booms. Might there be a concern about the forces put on that
point of the boom? That said, I'm moving the traveller to the forward
part of the cockpit for next year (above the wood cover).
Best of luck.
Jack
Bella - V2620
If I remember correctly, I believe the event you are worried about is if you have mid boom sheeting and then you somehow burry the end of the boom (with mainsail up) in the water. The pressure point is in the middle of the boom where the sheet attaches. Can fold up the boom.roy
You're both probably right, and I'm definitely not going to argue, mostly because I'm absolutely not sure that there would be ANY negative aspects to moving the traveler to the cabin top. Like most jobs, it probably comes down to the quality of the workmanship.
Happy sailing and boat maintenance!
Jack
Happy sailing and boat maintenance!
Jack
Hi gang, I paid special attention to the shape of the boom when sailing
on Saturday, and noticed some minor flexing in the boom at the mid
point. We were sailing hard to windward in about 15 knots. I have
sailed in much stronger winds without incident. However, I can see that
if the mainsail were loose footed (attached to the boom only at the aft
end) mid-boom sheeting could certainly put too much flex into the middle
of the boom. Trev V2915
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of j.hunter9999
Sent: October 16, 2009 7:01 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
You're both probably right, and I'm definitely not going to argue,
mostly because I'm absolutely not sure that there would be ANY negative
aspects to moving the traveler to the cabin top. Like most jobs, it
probably comes down to the quality of the workmanship.
Happy sailing and boat maintenance!
Jack
on Saturday, and noticed some minor flexing in the boom at the mid
point. We were sailing hard to windward in about 15 knots. I have
sailed in much stronger winds without incident. However, I can see that
if the mainsail were loose footed (attached to the boom only at the aft
end) mid-boom sheeting could certainly put too much flex into the middle
of the boom. Trev V2915
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From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of j.hunter9999
Sent: October 16, 2009 7:01 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: main sheeting
You're both probably right, and I'm definitely not going to argue,
mostly because I'm absolutely not sure that there would be ANY negative
aspects to moving the traveler to the cabin top. Like most jobs, it
probably comes down to the quality of the workmanship.
Happy sailing and boat maintenance!
Jack
Hi all,
When we purchased our Vega it had an original round shaped boom with the traveler forward of the hatch and attached to the center of the boom. Just before a sudden storm the boom slammed hard to port and snapped in half where the bail was mounted. The machine shop looked at it and said we were lucky we weren't in worse circumstances because there was considerable corrosion at that point and therefore was very weak. If you have a older boom you might want it inspected.
John
Southern Comfort Too
Houston, TX
When we purchased our Vega it had an original round shaped boom with the traveler forward of the hatch and attached to the center of the boom. Just before a sudden storm the boom slammed hard to port and snapped in half where the bail was mounted. The machine shop looked at it and said we were lucky we weren't in worse circumstances because there was considerable corrosion at that point and therefore was very weak. If you have a older boom you might want it inspected.
John
Southern Comfort Too
Houston, TX
Hi all:
I'm a little confused about the boom's connections. As far as I know, there are four: the goos neck, connecting the boom to the mast; the topping lift (doesn't do much of anything besides holding up the boom so it won't fall on your head when taking down the main; then there's the boom vang, preventing the boom to go up when sailing down wind (and make the boat go faster); and last but not least, the traveller, from the adjustable traveller to the outer end of the boom (so you can sheet in the boom more when going up-wind.)
I forgot: when there is roller reefing, then the boom vang must be disconnected.
Wilhelm, V-275
I'm a little confused about the boom's connections. As far as I know, there are four: the goos neck, connecting the boom to the mast; the topping lift (doesn't do much of anything besides holding up the boom so it won't fall on your head when taking down the main; then there's the boom vang, preventing the boom to go up when sailing down wind (and make the boat go faster); and last but not least, the traveller, from the adjustable traveller to the outer end of the boom (so you can sheet in the boom more when going up-wind.)
I forgot: when there is roller reefing, then the boom vang must be disconnected.
Wilhelm, V-275
Also a cunningham that allows the gooseneck to be pulled down to (?)
further tension the luff of the sail.
Not sure it is much use, I have one but almost never adjust it. (Any
suggestions?)
IMHO the topping lift is also useful when reefing as heaving up the boom
end (by pulling up the topping list) further depowers the sail and makes
it much easier to outhaul the first or second reef.
John
V1447 Breakaway
WL wrote:
further tension the luff of the sail.
Not sure it is much use, I have one but almost never adjust it. (Any
suggestions?)
IMHO the topping lift is also useful when reefing as heaving up the boom
end (by pulling up the topping list) further depowers the sail and makes
it much easier to outhaul the first or second reef.
John
V1447 Breakaway
WL wrote:
You're right about the cunningham, though that one- as you say- pulls down the main and gives an adjustment for wind conditions.It doesn't too much for the boom.I use it a lot.
Wilhelm, V-257
Wilhelm, V-257