Main Halyard

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Jul 8, 2011
704
Catalina 30 Sidney B.C.
Has anyone run there main halyard to the cockpit on a Catalina 30 I would like to make it easier for my wife so she does not have to climb on deck in rough seas . We can't do a cabin top as we have a dodger. Pics would be appreciated
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,358
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Many C30s have halyards led back to the cockpit with dodgers. Our boat is very much like a bigger C30, we have a dodger and the halyard is led aft.

Your other choice, given your mast halyard, is to have your wife steer while YOU do the work. :):):)
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,358
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Yes, it is. Just forward of the cabin sloped edge. One on each side, and most newer C30s have it. Check the C30 IA website. You're familiar with it, right?
 
Jul 8, 2011
704
Catalina 30 Sidney B.C.
My cabin top winch is on the starboard side and to close to the dodger to be able to turn a winch handle , maybe I can move the winch back far enough to do some good
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
How about putting your wife on the helm while you raise the main?
 
Jul 8, 2011
704
Catalina 30 Sidney B.C.
Getting over two broken ankles so no can do as strength is not there to hold good balance
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,358
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Understood, I broke my left femur skiing three years ago, takes a loooong time to "get back."

Answer: sail with just the jib. :)
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,358
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
My cabin top winch is on the starboard side and to close to the dodger to be able to turn a winch handle , maybe I can move the winch back far enough to do some good
Is it a two speed winch? If so, then you never have to go all the way around. If not, you can only deal with it by either cranking with the handle and replacing it, or getting a new winch.

FWIW, I raise our mainsail from the mast anyway, it's easier than with all the friction from the deck organizer and the blocks at the base of the mast, and then just use the winch for the last foot or two.
 
Jul 8, 2011
704
Catalina 30 Sidney B.C.
Thanks Stu its been 6 months for both legs and ya I will probably just leave it on the mast
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,323
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
How are you operating the winch..... you don't need to turn the handle 360 degrees... learn to grind "ratchet"... single or two speed, it don't matter. With self tailing it is even simpler... with standard winch you ease the tail on the recovery stroke, the harden the tail on the hoist stroke.... takes a little practice... but an importand skill to learn when sailing short handed.

There are very few boats under 35 feet that allow you to grind 360 under the dodger.

Remember that you should be able to get the sail up at least halfway without grinding at all by simply hauling by hand with the halyard wrapped 3 or 4 times on the drum to add purchase.... try it.

Finally, if this still doesn't please you.... you can always wrap the halyard once or twice around the cabin top winch and lead the tail to the larger drum primary winch on coaming and grind it up from there. This makes the dodger issue irrelevent.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
I bolted my dodger to the cabintop before I even thought about the winch handle. A 12-inch hadle hit the dodger frame. A 10-inch does not. Maybe there is an 8-inch handle made?
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
You might be able to do a cabin top next to the companyonway if you can run the halyard under the dodger. You could probably modify the dodger bottom edge with a small "hole" to allow passage of the line.
I can't believe there would be a handle clearance problem with the winch located there either.
If memory serves doesn't the Catalina 30 have a travler that would have to be negotiated? I'm thinking that a block even with the travler and off to the side (is there any side left at that location?) to turn the line around the travler at deck level.
 

Eric M

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Sep 30, 2008
159
Island Packet 35 Jacksonville
Do it, and don't look back. The ability to hoist the main from the cockpit is one of our favorite features of our boat. It is so simple. Lazy jacks, full batten main, and I can get the sail to within a foot of the top of the mast 9.5 out of 10 times with just a half a wrap on the winch on the cabin top. Find a block for the base of the mast with as large a diameter as possible and ensure it is the appropriate size for your haylard to minimize friction. The haylard runs aft to the cockpit parallel with the edge of the bump on the deck where the compaionway hatch slides into. It comes thru the dodger right at the zipper between the center dodger panel and the side pannel.
Good luck.
 
Nov 8, 2009
537
Hunter 386LE San Fancisco
On my previous Hunter 31 and current Hunter 386 the main halyard is routed to the cockpit through a block at the base of the mast then through fairleads or other such device then through a clutch. On both boats there are winches on the cabin to and I use(d) an 8" winch handle to avoid hitting the dodger.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,323
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I bolted my dodger to the cabintop before I even thought about the winch handle. A 12-inch hadle hit the dodger frame. A 10-inch does not. Maybe there is an 8-inch handle made?
Winch Handle Length: excerpted from WM advisor--------
In general, handles are 10" long, a good size for human physiology as well as the cockpits of sailboats. However, your arms will describe a pretty large circle, and many sailors find they are much faster with an 8" double grip lock–in handle, especially when tacking in light airs.

8–inch: Fast, but low powered. Good with limited clearance.

10–inch: Slower than 8", but 25% more powerful.

Again........ you don't have to grind winch 360 degrees.

Learn to "ratchet" the handle, as in back and forth not full circle.

That's what a winch is... a ratchet geared drum.
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
I believe that in MKii the halyards were routed back to the cockpit. I have two cabin top winches and they are under the dodger. I also have a full battened main but I haven't added lazy jacks...yet.

You still have to go forward to reef the main. The best solution is to reef early.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,358
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Here's a picture.

Our 10" handles don't go around. Joe's right, it's a ratchet. Back and forth, Easy peasy.

Under the traveler bar are three bullet fairleads, by Garhauer. Even the old Nicro traveler track had those. Holes in or cuts through the dodger let the lines lead back.
 

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