Lost the job roller furler halyard

[reisserar]

Help Oday 20
I was trying to replace the old halyard with a new one for fear the old one might break.
In the process I lost both of them.
Lowering the mast is not practical in my slip.
Any suggestions?

 

[reisserar]

That’s jib furler sorry for the typo.

 

[cymeyer]

Help Oday 20
I was trying to replace the old halyard with a new one for fear the old one might break.
In the process I lost both of them.
Lowering the mast is not practical in my slip.
Any suggestions?

is the jib halyard visible or inside the mast? if inside, I suspect you need to step the mast.
not sure where you are but is there a marina nearby that can step your mast?

 

[garymalmgren]

Hi reisserar

You have to get to the top of the mast to lower a new line down or to pull a new line up.
You have three choices
1. Drop the mast.
2. Go up the mast.
3. Use a bridge or cherry picker to access the top of the mast.

1. Drop the mast. This will mean making an A frame and using the mainsheet to lower the mast.
Not too difficult if your mast base /tabernacle is rigged for the job.

2. Go up the mast. On a 20 footer. No thank you.

3. Use a bridge or cherry picker to access the top of the mast.
Scope out what bridges are around.
Check the cost of a cherry picker rental in your area.

You can use an elecrician's snake to feed a messenger down and then pull the halyard through.

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[RitSim]

I lost my genoa halyard into the mast. A friend offered to go up the mast but was unable to drop a messenger with a few nuts for weight. Ended up going to Harbor F and buying three sets of their wire running kit (11" screw together fiberglass rods) And ran the messenger up from the bottom inside the mast. Then went to a marina yard and they hoisted a mechanic up to fish out the messenger line. an other alternative is to use a 6" piece of roller chain as the weight. It tends to rool around obstructions.

 

[jviss]

I lost both of them.

"Lost" is not really descriptive enough for people to help you. Do you mean the went up the mast, and are stuck there? Or did they go up and then fall down into the mast?

 

[LloydB]

"Lowering the mast is not practical in my slip"
Nonsense a simple challenge and a six pack as the wager should get it done on any sunny day. After all it is a sailboat there must be other sailors around and why must that happen only in the slip?

 

[jssailem]

Mast on an Oday 20 is 32ft in the air, 400lb ballast.
Climbing a mast by a 200lb male would be ill advised. Who would want to send their 100lb 13yr old up the mast?
Another option used by sailors of old, if you cannot drop the mast (which I find a bit absurd) is to take the boat to the beach. Careening your boat is really old school, but done in tidal waters. How to careen a sailboat - the low cost haulout - Waterborne WaterborneMag.com

You might also try sealing your boat up against water intrusion and hauling the mast down to a ladder on a dock. Kind of like careening only in the water.

 

[Project_Mayhem]

If I had a 20' boat I'd drop the mast. It's possible to do it by hand without anyone's help. I would suggest making an X out of 2x4's to support the mast and tie it onto the stern railings. The gooseneck may touch and damage the cabin top without it. To get the mast back up, I'd suggest help of a friend or use the mainsheet to aid with the tougher parts. At some point you'll have to step onto the cabin top. You'll want something to support the mast at this point.

For a larger boat I would use fiberglass rods like @RitSim suggested. The Harbor Frieght one I bought a couple months ago is garbage. The ends come off really easy. Hopefully I just got a bad one because they used to be OK.
Anyways, I'd loosely tie one end of the stick to a halyard that goes up the mast with a foot sticking out and the other end would be tied/taped to the halyard you want to re-install. Tying the stick to the existing halyard gives it some stability and allows it to actually get to the top of the mast. These sticks bend quite a bit under their own weight. Harbor Frieght ones are skinny enough that they might actually be able to go through the sheaves at the top of the mast with the halyard taped on. Klein and other more reputable brands are stiffer but thicker

I can go into far more detail with both of those techniques if you so desire

 

[LloydB]

I have a 24 foot golf ball retriever that I could reach the top of your mast while standing on a ladder strapped to the mast and use it to drop a lead weight fishing line over the sheave to pull in the new halyard. It's easier said than done yet not impossible.

 

[Project_Mayhem]

It's almost a guarantee that this is going to take two people no matter how it's done. Taking the mast down is going to be way less frustrating than trying to get a tiny object fed through a tiny hole 20+ feet in the air. Ok maybe if you're an incredibly skilled drone pilot you could do it solo on an absolutely calm day but even then its still difficult