which is mast head rigged with a backstay. It also has a place on the mast to mount an inner stay, if we wanted to cutter rig it. It comes standard with a 150 genoa, a huge sail. We're trying to decide whether to add a whisker pole to improve downwind performance or possibly add a spinnaker. I sail solo quite often so I would be looking for a solution that requires minimal crew. I realize that a spinnaker works better than the genoa in light air, but would it make that much difference? Would I get about as good a result with a whisker pole? Terry P.S. We're not into racing, so a fractional knot in speed makes little difference in our cruising grounds...Puget Sound/Gulf Islands.
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Terry, since no one else is responding....
here are my 2 cents worth of advice: - trying to single-hand a spinnaker on a Passage 42 might perhaps be fun as a stunt, but hardly makes for sound seamanship; - not having a whisker pole on a 42 ft sailing vessel with already somewhat compromised down-wind capabilities because of the B&R rig would seem to be an omission (even if you later decide to add a spinnaker); - if you rig the whisker pole with a topping lift plus fore- and after-guys you can just drop the genoa on your new "yardarm" and furl again with ease without ever touching the whiskerpole (a problem arises, of course, when you want to tack downwind and have to move the whiskerpole to the other side); - a 150% genoa on a Passage 42 requires such a huge telescoping whiskerpole that I would certainly mount it on a special track (presumably already present on your mast) so as not to hurt yourself; and - when you are ready to buy a new genoa, perhaps get a smaller one (e.g. 110)together with a staysail mounted on an inner forestay; now you can sail downwind wing-on-wing on both jibs while imitating a spinnaker (you don't need to buy a second whiskerpole; just split the old telescoping pole in its 2 component tubes and use the thinner tube for the staysail). Have fun! Flying Dutchman PS How do you like Semi-Ah-Moo? Nelleke and I visited once and fell in love with the area. If we ever have to leave the Vanuatu project because of advancing age, we might well end up in your nick of the woods....... HM
here are my 2 cents worth of advice: - trying to single-hand a spinnaker on a Passage 42 might perhaps be fun as a stunt, but hardly makes for sound seamanship; - not having a whisker pole on a 42 ft sailing vessel with already somewhat compromised down-wind capabilities because of the B&R rig would seem to be an omission (even if you later decide to add a spinnaker); - if you rig the whisker pole with a topping lift plus fore- and after-guys you can just drop the genoa on your new "yardarm" and furl again with ease without ever touching the whiskerpole (a problem arises, of course, when you want to tack downwind and have to move the whiskerpole to the other side); - a 150% genoa on a Passage 42 requires such a huge telescoping whiskerpole that I would certainly mount it on a special track (presumably already present on your mast) so as not to hurt yourself; and - when you are ready to buy a new genoa, perhaps get a smaller one (e.g. 110)together with a staysail mounted on an inner forestay; now you can sail downwind wing-on-wing on both jibs while imitating a spinnaker (you don't need to buy a second whiskerpole; just split the old telescoping pole in its 2 component tubes and use the thinner tube for the staysail). Have fun! Flying Dutchman PS How do you like Semi-Ah-Moo? Nelleke and I visited once and fell in love with the area. If we ever have to leave the Vanuatu project because of advancing age, we might well end up in your nick of the woods....... HM
Hi Henk, thanks for the advice. The P42 is...
almost as easy to sail as our previous H28. She sails well downwind except in very light air the genoa flops around some. Whisker would help. We love Semi-ah-moo. One of the nicest marinas around; private and a wonderful staff. Close access to the San Juans and Gulf Islands. Thanks again. Terry
almost as easy to sail as our previous H28. She sails well downwind except in very light air the genoa flops around some. Whisker would help. We love Semi-ah-moo. One of the nicest marinas around; private and a wonderful staff. Close access to the San Juans and Gulf Islands. Thanks again. Terry
Spinnaker or whisker pole?
Hi Terry, Thanks for joining the Doyle Sails forum. It's always helpful to get insight from another owner of a similar boat. You may find a Pole-less cruising spinnaker like the Doyle APC quite an addition to your sail inventory. With the ATN Sleeve, it makes setting and dousing the APC easier than using a whisker pole. The APC makes light air and downwind sailing more fun. If you have an auto pilot, it can be sailed single handed, and with less effort to jibe than using a whisker pole. We also have a Sail called the UPS or Utility Power Sail. This sail is smaller than the APC, but larger and lighter than a 155% Genoa. It is set on an indepenent free-luff furler, with an Integral Luff line. With this sail, you simply roll it up to Tack, Jibe or douse. Making single handed sailing even easier. Check out both sails at www.doylesails.com click on cruising sails on the left side of the screen, then click either of the sails under the heading Spinnakers. Or, you can contact me direct at timstodola@doyleplochsails.com
Hi Terry, Thanks for joining the Doyle Sails forum. It's always helpful to get insight from another owner of a similar boat. You may find a Pole-less cruising spinnaker like the Doyle APC quite an addition to your sail inventory. With the ATN Sleeve, it makes setting and dousing the APC easier than using a whisker pole. The APC makes light air and downwind sailing more fun. If you have an auto pilot, it can be sailed single handed, and with less effort to jibe than using a whisker pole. We also have a Sail called the UPS or Utility Power Sail. This sail is smaller than the APC, but larger and lighter than a 155% Genoa. It is set on an indepenent free-luff furler, with an Integral Luff line. With this sail, you simply roll it up to Tack, Jibe or douse. Making single handed sailing even easier. Check out both sails at www.doylesails.com click on cruising sails on the left side of the screen, then click either of the sails under the heading Spinnakers. Or, you can contact me direct at timstodola@doyleplochsails.com
Hi Tim, thanks for the reply. I just sent a ...
quote request in for the APC that you suggested. How is the APC rigged, like an asymmetrical spinnaker? Also, what is a free-luff furler? Would it be connected to an inner stay, or the forestay? I'm assuming the APC comes in different cloth colors. It sounds closer to what we're looking for. Can one sail it dead down wind, and what about its tack angle limits? Thanks. Terry
quote request in for the APC that you suggested. How is the APC rigged, like an asymmetrical spinnaker? Also, what is a free-luff furler? Would it be connected to an inner stay, or the forestay? I'm assuming the APC comes in different cloth colors. It sounds closer to what we're looking for. Can one sail it dead down wind, and what about its tack angle limits? Thanks. Terry
APC
Hi Terry, You can get a price immediately on line on this site, go to the chandlery to the Spinnaker site, or to cruisingspinnakers.com These are DOYLE APC's and you can play with color selection on line. This is a good venue for purchasing an APC with an ATN Sleeve, there is a lot if info there as well.
Hi Terry, You can get a price immediately on line on this site, go to the chandlery to the Spinnaker site, or to cruisingspinnakers.com These are DOYLE APC's and you can play with color selection on line. This is a good venue for purchasing an APC with an ATN Sleeve, there is a lot if info there as well.
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