My wife an I bought a 1976, and although the engine runs, we are thinking about repower, for a number of reasons. Everything I hear so-far is that the old Yanmar is underpowered. We have a 12 year old with CP, and the certainty and relaiability of a new motor makes sleeping easier. We have to a fair amount of cabin work over the winter and it just seems to be the best time to do it now. I have obtained some super prices on a new 18 hp Westerbeke, and a new 16 hp Vetus. I am a novice and I keep hearing Yanmar is the way to go, and there are not a lot of good rebuilts around. Anybody have any thoughts or suggestions. One person told me 1 hp per foot, but thats one persons opinion. Help?
Lookig for repower opinions
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Who is going to install the engine?
Bob: Regardless of the price of the engine, who is going to do the installation for you? Dave Wilson just purchased a new 3YM for about $7200 for his H'37C but will end up with a bill of about $15,000 when he sails away. Is this justified for your boat?
Bob: Regardless of the price of the engine, who is going to do the installation for you? Dave Wilson just purchased a new 3YM for about $7200 for his H'37C but will end up with a bill of about $15,000 when he sails away. Is this justified for your boat?
I hope so
I am going to install it, I have a friend in the business, and he said he would help, or guide to be more accurate. I understand that its about 40 hours of billed labor for a boatyard, but my time is free, and for what we paid for the boat, even if I low ball the blue book, we are still ahead of the game.
I am going to install it, I have a friend in the business, and he said he would help, or guide to be more accurate. I understand that its about 40 hours of billed labor for a boatyard, but my time is free, and for what we paid for the boat, even if I low ball the blue book, we are still ahead of the game.
1 per foot might be overkill
I think a 30 hp engine for a 30 foot boat is going to be way too much, unless you're trying to imitate a Macgregor 26 and want to go water skiing. I would look to an 18 hp Yanmar. Easier to handle and still a 50% increase in power over what you have. Steve Dion has that engine in his 31 and he routinely buries his transom about a foot. Dave
I think a 30 hp engine for a 30 foot boat is going to be way too much, unless you're trying to imitate a Macgregor 26 and want to go water skiing. I would look to an 18 hp Yanmar. Easier to handle and still a 50% increase in power over what you have. Steve Dion has that engine in his 31 and he routinely buries his transom about a foot. Dave
I think your right about overkill
I thought that article on 1 HP per foot was a bit much too, but I am a novice, and looking to the old salts for a better opinion. Thanks
I thought that article on 1 HP per foot was a bit much too, but I am a novice, and looking to the old salts for a better opinion. Thanks
Still quite a bit of additional cost.
Bob: Dave got a good deal on a 3YM. My point was that there are a lot of pieces that you may need including a prop, shaft hoses, etc. If you start looking at engines do not pass on a BUKH, they are great little engines and just a perfect match for your boat too.
Bob: Dave got a good deal on a 3YM. My point was that there are a lot of pieces that you may need including a prop, shaft hoses, etc. If you start looking at engines do not pass on a BUKH, they are great little engines and just a perfect match for your boat too.
repowering
I am repowering my H31 with a new 3YM30 (29HP) this winter and doing the work myself. I got a great deal on the engine otherwise I think 20 to 25 hp would have been more than adequate for both our size boats. I think almost all the engines out there are well designed and dependable, particularily compared to older engines. I also am looking for peace of mind with the engines. Yanmar is very good and so are the others. I would look instead of brand, to first ease of installation, ease of doing routine maintainance, better to be a little overpowered than underpowered,availability of parts and service, and finally a good indepth service manual to teach me what I do not know. Hope this helps. Good decision, go for it.
I am repowering my H31 with a new 3YM30 (29HP) this winter and doing the work myself. I got a great deal on the engine otherwise I think 20 to 25 hp would have been more than adequate for both our size boats. I think almost all the engines out there are well designed and dependable, particularily compared to older engines. I also am looking for peace of mind with the engines. Yanmar is very good and so are the others. I would look instead of brand, to first ease of installation, ease of doing routine maintainance, better to be a little overpowered than underpowered,availability of parts and service, and finally a good indepth service manual to teach me what I do not know. Hope this helps. Good decision, go for it.
I put a Vetus
in my boat and it runs great. The price was great too. Mitsubishi diesels (the engine used by Vetus) are great little diesels. I put in a M 2.06 16 hp the price was $4,600.00 for the unit and it cost about $1,000.00 to put it in. Sometimes its not much of a job to put one in and sometimes its a big job. It depends on the boat and what modifications need to be done. Get the measurements on the unit and compair them to where its going. The more room there is the easier it should be. Shop around and get prices for putting it in. Who ever you use make sure they've done it before and the customers were happy.
in my boat and it runs great. The price was great too. Mitsubishi diesels (the engine used by Vetus) are great little diesels. I put in a M 2.06 16 hp the price was $4,600.00 for the unit and it cost about $1,000.00 to put it in. Sometimes its not much of a job to put one in and sometimes its a big job. It depends on the boat and what modifications need to be done. Get the measurements on the unit and compair them to where its going. The more room there is the easier it should be. Shop around and get prices for putting it in. Who ever you use make sure they've done it before and the customers were happy.
vetus modificatiosn?
Were there any major modifications that had to be made, prop shaft, bedding, motor mounts, I am working with a distributor on these issues, and he says that the bolt pattern on the vetus is the same as the Yanmar/
Were there any major modifications that had to be made, prop shaft, bedding, motor mounts, I am working with a distributor on these issues, and he says that the bolt pattern on the vetus is the same as the Yanmar/
Not sure yet, but it makes the most sense for us!
With the age of the motor, and the fact that we have no idea how many hours on it, and how well it was maintained, coupled with the repairs that we have to do, it just makes sense to do it now. With what we paid for the boat, even the cost of a new motor would keep us under the low end blue book value, and satisfy the piece of mind issue. We are at the beginning of the learning curve, and will probably make more use of a motor that a seasoned sailor, at least for a while. But all in all we are just researching now, and the experience from this website is invaluable.
With the age of the motor, and the fact that we have no idea how many hours on it, and how well it was maintained, coupled with the repairs that we have to do, it just makes sense to do it now. With what we paid for the boat, even the cost of a new motor would keep us under the low end blue book value, and satisfy the piece of mind issue. We are at the beginning of the learning curve, and will probably make more use of a motor that a seasoned sailor, at least for a while. But all in all we are just researching now, and the experience from this website is invaluable.
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