Locker Lids

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STEPHEN

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Jan 22, 2008
16
ORKNEY STRIKELINER WEYMOUTH/MELKSHAM
Hi All,

I'm in the process of painting the deck and cockpit and wonder if the locker lids are made of Starboard? Whatever they are, they don't look like something that will take paint. Since I plan to use KIWI non-skid, I'm thinking to try this.

I noticed in photos of Sin Tacha that Peter has applied a non-skid surface to the lids, is this a paint product?

Thanks,

Stephen
Vega 813
Vancouver
 
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tiempo2010

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Sep 24, 2008
346
No. Vegas were produced before starboard was available. They should be a
fiberglass molding unless a previous owner changed something.
 
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ronmagnusson

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Aug 9, 2006
28
I still have two Locker Lids made out of solid Teak if anyone is interested.

Ronnie Magnusson
Cell 203-395-0670
Work 203-881-2600
Fax 203-881-2644
Skype ronniemagnusson
 
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pjacobs55

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Oct 30, 2019
1,459
Stephen,
My lids are 1/2" ply with fiberglass cloth and epoxy covering. They were a quick-and-dirty temporary fix for the rotten lids on the boat when I bought it. But with a coat of paint and some non-skid, they looked pretty decent, so now they're five years old and still in place.

The paint is a General Paint water-based sundeck coating, with silica sand added for non-skid. That stuff is pretty rough, so a couple of coats of paint over top will keep the seat of your jeans from being sanded off!

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
 
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skipperjs

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Aug 29, 2000
40
Hi Steve,Steve, or any of our other Albin Vega sailors, I need advise. I have (what I believe to be) the original Albin Vega cockpit locker lids, which are mostly like your De-Luxe Locker Lid set. I am trying to keep them going through this season. The black caulk between the teak strips has shrunk and dried leaving gaps along the edges of the teak letting water soak into the wood and potentially under the strips. I would like to clean out all of the old black caulk between the teak strips and replace it with new caulk. What is the best product to replace the old stuff and make these almost like new?Those of you who have been on this list for more than 15 years, may remember my parents, Jim and Dru Sheldon, who sailed their Albin Vega, Privateer Chance, from Narragansett Bay, RI up through the Maine coast for many years. Dad was a prolific contributor to the Abin Vega newsletter and membership correspondence.Thanks so much,Drusie

Drusie Sheldon
"Spindrift", Vega 1879
Saunderstown, RI
 
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rchrdcoe

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Dec 11, 2007
179
- - port st. lucie,fl.
I made new hatches and used West system epoxy tinted with black dye in the joints between the strips. After letting it cure, sand the entire hatch smooth. Looks like the original calk but seals the hatch. Then you can coat the entire hatch with clear epoxy with varnish over for a beautiful finish.Richard
 
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skipperjs

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Aug 29, 2000
40
Thank you, Richard! This makes good sense. Do I need to tape the teak strips to keep the black epoxy from staining the teak? I do love that this process truly seals the hatch lids.DrusieTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:09:30 -0700Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Locker Lids






I made new hatches and used West system epoxy tinted with black dye in the joints between the strips. After letting it cure, sand the entire hatch smooth. Looks like the original calk but seals the hatch. Then you can coat the entire hatch with clear epoxy with varnish over for a beautiful finish.Richard
 
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rchrdcoe

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Dec 11, 2007
179
- - port st. lucie,fl.
that's probably a good idea. the sanding after would remove any overspills in addition.richard
 
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skipperjs

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Aug 29, 2000
40
Richard, I am taking your lead with this process of finishing the hatch covers. I made a plywood test board and am having some difficulty with the black epoxy getting on the top surface (out of the channels). It doesn't clean up very nicely on the plywood, but that is much more porous. Did you have any trouble with the black epoxy staining the teak surface with drops or bleeding over? If so, does acetate clean that off the teak sufficiently? This isn't something that I want to test! I tried taping off the top but it isn't really that effective at keeping it clean. Did you use the 207 clear hardner for the channels as well as the top? That was my plan but the channels are so shiny, that I was wondering if the 205 hardner would look better (less shiny) in the channels (but one more thing to buy).Any advice is appreciated!!DrusieFrom: d_sheldon@...To: albinvega@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [AlbinVega] Re: Locker LidsDate: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:35:50 -0400Thank you, Richard! This makes good sense. Do I need to tape the teak strips to keep the black epoxy from staining the teak? I do love that this process truly seals the hatch lids.DrusieTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comDate: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:09:30 -0700Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Locker Lids






I made new hatches and used West system epoxy tinted with black dye in the joints between the strips. After letting it cure, sand the entire hatch smooth. Looks like the original calk but seals the hatch. Then you can coat the entire hatch with clear epoxy with varnish over for a beautiful finish.Richard
 
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n4lbl

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Oct 7, 2008
307
I've used 105 epoxy and 206 hardener to seal plywood edges. I left it clear which I may regret later. Taping leaked a little but left a burr that could cut a leg off if untouched!
Alan
 
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SVFlyAway

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Oct 31, 2019
303
I have to replace one of my covers also, so I'll do both. I think I'll use high density plastic. It is stronger than plywood and 1/2" will cover a span with no sag. If I need to I can easily reinforce it with the new bonding agent they have (adding fore and aft support pieces). I can easily cut it and then route the edges half round, no painting, or epoxy, or finishing at all. And the stuff last forever. I've used it a lot and find it is really great stuff for boats.

Chris Brown

Optimists are usually disappointed.
Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a
disappointed pessimist.
 
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rchrdcoe

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Dec 11, 2007
179
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I agree.Starboard seems to be indestructable. It's just not as esthecticly pleasing as wood.
 
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dougpol1

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Feb 13, 2010
528
I replaced mine a couple years ago. I bought 1" thick Mahogany and
had it milled down to about 5/8 thick and 5 "wide. I drilled the
edges and epoxied them togeather using wooden dowels. I don't know
about the other Vegas but mimed is trimmed with Mahogany which I see
as far better than teak. Varnish stickes to it many times better
than oily teak. There is much less re-varnishing to be done over
time. I can put on as many as three coats aday in the summertime
with no sanding in between. If the last coat is still slighihtly
soft the next coat will penetrate it's surface and bond together.
So two or three coats in one day unthinned a good sanding the next
day and a final coat or two that same day. That will last a year
here in Virginia.That next year you do the same and now you have
six coats. After that you apply a coat a year and every year after.
Over time you will have may have 12 coats and after that 1 coat
every two years is all thats is required untill the build up is so
great you have to sanding some off to thin the varnsh so that it
does not hide the beauty of the wood grain. If you drop something on
it and crack the varnish you will have to sand only that spot to
bare wood and put on 3 coats a day on that spot for two days and
varnish the whole seat with one final coat. The sun in few weeks
will change the color of the newly patched wood to match the color
of the rest of the seat. Varnished Mahogany is far and away the
easiest to maintain of any. I use an ocansional wipped on coat of
Tung oil some times to take the shine off the wood work to give it a
high quality furniture type sheen as it is hand rubbed. Absolutely
deep rich and beautiful.
--
Doug Pollard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO




08/04/2014 11:39 AM, Chris Brown svflyaway@... [AlbinVega]
wrote:
 
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SVFlyAway

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Oct 31, 2019
303
Maybe not as aesthetically pleasing as say a teak hatch, but my current hatches are painted plywood with some non-skid stuck on top. White plastic, white plywood is there that much of a difference?

I do a lot of woodworking and was going to build some nice teak hatches, but I have decided I will have to sell Flyaway in the next few months after I finish a couple projects (rebuild the fuel system and install the electrical panel). I had a major surgery that kind of took me out of the sailing business for sometime, then I broke my foot and had surgery on it that was moderately successful. Having a sore, weak foot is not the thing to have on a boat as small as a Vega.

I didn't want to start another project like building teak locker covers.Chris Brown

Optimists are usually disappointed.
Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a
disappointed pessimist.
 
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dougpol1

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Feb 13, 2010
528
My thinking is that all I will do is set on it so I don't need
indestructible. Wood is so easy to repair if you scratch it I just
don't see the advantage in damaging the looks of a really fine
looking little boat to replace the seat covers with plastic. The
boat needs the varnish wood seats as a part of it's beauty. People
walk by my boat often and tell me how pretty she is and a few even
walk over from other docks just to tell me. Some want to know how I
keep her so beautiful. The truth is I varnish bright work once a
year I paint the hull and decks with white pauint about every 3
years and a Little white paint with a touch of dark grey in it
gives beuitiful very light gray tone to none skid areas I paint a
red stripe in the feature stripe down her side, red bottom paint
with no boot topping and burgundy sail covers and dodger with pale
grew cockpit cushions. I hear all the time how do you keep her so
beautiful or it must cost a fortune to keep her looking so nice. The
truth is it costs little and is certainly not hard work.Not only
that but you know that when you bang her up against a piling it
doesn't matter becaus next year you will repaint anyway. You get
out your can of paint and a brush and touch up that scuffed spot.
I haul and pain the bottom every thirf year and dive over and scrub
the bottom twice a summer. It takes about a hald hour befor going
for a sail on a Saturday morning. The guy who is always complaning
about how much boats cost spent $18,000.00 last spring to have in
boat painted with Emron. Last year when Sandy came through she got
up against a piling??? I guess the insurance paid for that.
--
Doug Pollard
Albin Vega Sea Legs 2225
KK4YGO


On 08/04/2014 01:14 PM,
coe.richard@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
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SVFlyAway

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Oct 31, 2019
303
OH, since my locker covers are now painted white I just assumed you would be painting them. So you are going to clearcoat them with a varnish or epoxy or whatever. That's a good idea I might do that myself rather than the plastic. Not sure what I want to do with the edges of the plywood though. I also like the idea of the mahogany boards glued together. But I would probably get the thicker of mahogany and then mill out around the edges a little where mahogany sits on the fiberglass; leaving the center part of the cover (seats) thicker. It would be easy to put in some fake grooves, filling them with the rubber used for teak decks, so they look planked. All that is really easy to do with the router.

I do a lot of building with pocket screws and they work very well to build up wide pieces.Chris Brown

Optimists are usually disappointed.
Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a
disappointed pessimist.
 
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n4lbl

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Oct 7, 2008
307
Since I sealed the plywood edges with epoxy I read that epoxies without pigment are susceptible to breakdown in UV. I don't know how true that is.
Alan
 
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