Local Knowledge - Tampa area Sailors

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Jan 28, 2011
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Hunter 30 Deltaville
We are looking at a move to the Tampa area, specifically Apollo Beach, and are currently planning on relocating our 78 Hunter 30. She draws 5'3", is this a reasonable draft for sailing this part of the world? We are currently on the lower Chesapeake Bay and are used to some skinny water. Any input would be appreciated.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Friend Ed A., usually only seen on the Cherubini forum, lives on the bay at Davis Island. His H37C was a fin keel, over five feet. When I sail with him he points out some skinny water. You could PM him from his profile. Find him in this thread: http://forums.hunter.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=125506&page=2.

We both have a friend that lives in Apollo Beach, on one of the canals. And has his boat behind the house. But I don't know the draft. I also know there are not a lot of slips available there. I think that part of the bay is most reasonably priced though.

I could add that I have sailed most of the bay and out under the Skyway bridge. On a couple of charter boats with deep drafts I only had to watch in a couple of places. When my own boat was there no worries, only 4' draft.
 
Jan 22, 2008
1,483
Hunter 37 C sloop Punta Gorda FL
Tampa Sailing Squadron is headquarterd at the Bay end of the Apollo Beach canal system. they would be your best source of Local info
 
Jan 28, 2011
9
Hunter 30 Deltaville
Thanks Ed and Bill. I've sent a PM to Ed A. and await a reply. I previously sent an email to the cruising captain of TSS and have yet to hear back.
 
Jul 29, 2009
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Irwin 37 c.c. Cutter indian rocks beach, fl.
There is a lot of shallow water in Tampa Bay, and there are extreme high and low tides. An updated chart is warranted no matter where you go in this area. Even the ICW is shallow south of Clearwater. Sometimes to 7 feet at low tide and a narrow channel, really needs to be dredged. At the edge of the ICW where I turn in to the area where I keep mine, the shoal is above the water and there is only a small part of the channel to get out of at low tide, I've soft grounded several times, but managed to unstick since I was barely moving at the time. The draft on my boat is less than 4 feet. Looks pretty deep around Apollo Beach. And it's close to the shipping channel. Here is a link for the chart. http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/11412.shtml Apollo Beach is just north of the Little Manatee River on the very east side of Tampa Bay.
 
Sep 30, 2010
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Seafarer 26 Tampa
I sail out of Apollo Beach and a lot of the boats draw 5-5 1/2 ft. You will however need to watch the tides for entering and exiting the harbors both north and south side of Apollo Beach. Thanks to past hurricanes and some local shoaling the entrances are right around 4 1/2-5 ft at low tide. If entering the south channel stay dead center as you enter between 3 & 4 if need favor 4 with traffic. When you exit the channel into the harbor favor the other side avoiding 8 but don't turn to port until you approach 12.
Hope to see you on the Bay.
Tampa Sailing Squadron is a great bunch of people and would love for you to stop in. They are open to visitors on the weekends and all their events.
 
Jan 28, 2011
9
Hunter 30 Deltaville
Thanks again, we are trying to get a comfortable feeling that it makes sense moving the boat down. We plan to be in the area early March, we have to include a stop at TSS while we're there. Sounds like a good menas of tracking tides is important as well as good charts.
 
Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
Yes, that's a reasonable draft for this area.

Heck, you can run aground with any draft. It's like my brother says about four-wheel-drive trucks. "Yeah, they get stuck too. Just WAY further in the woods."

Yes, there's some shoals in the bay but 98% of it is probably eight to twelve feet (except for the channels.) The entire West coast of Florida is very well charted, easy to navigate and with the exception of a hand-full of inlets, slow to change. Heck, grab some free online charts and check it out for yourself.

Your Hunter 30 will be fine for trips to the Keys and even the Bahamas if you wish.

Enjoy.

Oh, I found this bit of a post from 2005. It's mostly still accurate. Kinda. Sorta.


Points further north and a South Sea comment​

We used to go to South Seas frequently and pretend we had money (we still don't.) Captiva certainly has it's charms and we love the island but be aware that the resort was ground zero for Hurricane Charley and had it's clock cleaned. They've been frantically rebuilding and a friend just e-mailed me from there 2 days ago says that while it's open for business there's still much construction underway and you'll pay $3.50/ft. for the privilege of enduring it.

You've gotten some good advice on Cabbage, Useppa and Cayo Costa. They're all favorite stops of ours and worth a look. See if you can find someone in the anchorage to lead you through the 'tunnel-of-love.'

If you're in the area, dinghy in to Barnacle Phils's on the northern tip of North Captiva Island. There's no bridge to the island and Phil's sits on a charming lagoon hidden within the Northeast corner of the island. Oh yeah, don't miss the ice cream shop up stairs.

We always stop at the Crow's Nest Marina just inside the Venice Inlet. It's a small, friendly, easy to access facility that has a pretty damn good restaurant upstairs. Be sure to try the Guenther-Gebel Williams filet mignon. Oh my god, it's unbelievable. You can enjoy your meal with a fine wine while watching the sunset behind your boat. The loaner bikes will allow you to pedal into town to sightsee.

The anchorage adjacent to the Marina Jack's complex in downtown Sarasota is worth considering. Just don't come in Big Sarasota pass. It's marked but WAY too treacherous for deeper draft vessels. You'll see locals use it but usually only in settled conditions. Anyway, you can land a dinghy at the upper eastern shore of the anchorage basin where you can lock it up and head into town. Downtown Sarasota has undergone something of a renaissance in the past several years and theres many nice bistros and shops to visit. On a nice day you can visit the Marie Selby Botanical Gardens.

Covered in the Claiborne Young guide you mentioned is the Longboat Key anchorage on the extreme northern end of Longboat Key. It's small and overly popular on weekends but for good reason. We try to visit on weekdays. Tuck in close to shore as the current reverses in the outer parts of the anchorage pretty hard. There’s two excellent seafood eateries on the shore (Mar Vista and Moore's) and beautiful beaches a short dinghy ride away. Follow the first meandering canal into the Key that begins immediately south of the anchorage. At it's terminus is Isabel's, a fabulous breakfast hole-in-the-wall. There's even a short seawall where you can tie up the dink. If you like huevos rancheros done right or maybe chocolate chip and banana pancakes then you can't miss it. A few steps from Isabel's is an upscale grocery store for mid-trip provisioning and a liquor store for mid-trip prov..., well, you get the idea. (UPDATE: Most of these places are now gone. Moore’s is still there and Mar Vista is now a bit , ahem, foo-foo.)

The Longboat Key pass is okay for sailboats but be aware that the current can run briskly and that it's a single-lift bascule.

Inside the mouth of the Manatee River you'll find acres of anchorage on either the north or south side of the river. There's not much in the immediate vicinity (which isn't always a bad thing) but there are county parks on either shore to explore.

You might head to St. Pete to anchor in the Vinoy (hotel) basin. On the south shore there's a small watercraft concession and dock run by a lady who would let us keep the dink there securely for a few bucks while we traipsed through downtown. Don't miss Moon Under Water restaurant which borders the basin. It's a converted old rambling house that features an unusual British colonial cuisine and lots of favorite draft beers. There's plenty more stops to be found on foot but you'll just have to discover those on your own.

If you head north of St. Pete I'd recommend the Greek enclave of Tarpon Springs. Mmmmm, I can taste the saganaki now...

As you can tell, a good deal of our cruising revolves around food. That's not abnormal is it?

Hope this helps.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Rick: re Four Wheel Drive

When I read your post I had to laugh. It brought back memories of when I bought my 2-wheel drive pickup:

Heck, you can run aground with any draft. It's like my brother says about four-wheel-drive trucks. "Yeah, they get stuck too. Just WAY further in the woods."
We lived in a very rural area where the slogan was "Where the west still lives!" and nearly everyone who had a pickup drove a full-size 4-wheel drive, with a gun rack in the rear window and a hay bale in the pickup bed.

The whole county had only one traffic light and it was the blinking type.

I wound up getting a F-150 XLT (a city rig) with 2-wheel drive. Naturally you have the Chevy/GMC/Ford loyalists and one of them scoffed at my non-4 wheel drive. One of the guys defended me by saying "All a 4-wheel drive does is get you more stuck!"

Yes, and that's also true about WAY further in the woods.
 
May 24, 2004
7,164
CC 30 South Florida
With 5'3" you will be fine in Tampa Bay but getting in and out of Apollo Beach you will have to mind your tides specially in the winter time. A strong North wind will blow water out of the Bay and consequently make for a lower tide level.
 
Jan 28, 2011
9
Hunter 30 Deltaville
Thanks everyone, this gives us more comfort in our decision to bring our current boat down. We look forward to getting out on the bay and seeing all the sights and many friendly sailors.

Fair Winds.
 
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