To you P42 owners, how much have you loaded your boat for cruising & did you feel you overloaded the boat? I was doing some calculations via Calders Cruising Guide and I'm curious as to how much any of you have loaded yours. I'm talking the older P42, not the 420...I just checked and there is about a 4,000 lb difference between the 2; 420 @ 20,000 & the 42 @ 24,000. 150 gallons water 100 gallons diesel 15 gallons gas 100+ lb dingy 80 lb dingy motor dingy davits extra deep cycle batteries inverter SSB 3 anchors & rode + chain spare parts for every major component tools, tools, tools kitchen appliances in crossong over to the Bahamas for 4 months the common practice is to load up on ships stores as much as possible to avoid the high prices over there, so add... 12 cases beer 2 cases wine 2 cases olives fill the freezer with steaks cases of cashews, tomatoes, rice, etc. etc. etc. All told, it could easily come to 6,000 or 7,000 lbs or more!!! Should I be concerned?...with the weight, not my diet!
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A 6,000 lb load will sink her by approximately 3" based on an assumed waterplane area. If it is all held in place in case of an inversion it might increase the boat's stability a little. If not well secured life could get interesting. Paint the waterlines 3" higher and don't worry - but don't overdo it!
A 6,000 lb load will sink her by approximately 3" based on an assumed waterplane area. If it is all held in place in case of an inversion it might increase the boat's stability a little. If not well secured life could get interesting. Paint the waterlines 3" higher and don't worry - but don't overdo it!
Hi Ted, when we prepared for our two month...
cruise to the Broughton Acrhipelago we must have (did not weigh) had close to what you reference and I did not notice any difference in handling or performance. Guessing by the waterline, she may have been an inch deeper in the water, but not three inches. The cases of beer and boxes of wine I stowed in the compartment beneath the forward berth. I was amazed at how much can goods you can stow in the galley sole compartment. Most all of my tools and fasteners stow in the setee in separate boxes in the center of the boat. Both reefers were chuck block full, as my mother would say. Those Sterlite plastic containers with side latch on lids from Walmart work great for condiments on the upper shelf of the fridge. I keep refreshments in the lower part of the fridge. Rubbermaid containers size #7 work great for storing stuff on end in the small back shelfs in the main cabin hanging lockers (adhesives, spare gloves, sewing stuff, etc.). I also stack them on top of each other in the small locker next (left side) to the nav table, which are full of flares, spare GPS and like stuff. Belle-Vie was loaded with room to spare. Terry
cruise to the Broughton Acrhipelago we must have (did not weigh) had close to what you reference and I did not notice any difference in handling or performance. Guessing by the waterline, she may have been an inch deeper in the water, but not three inches. The cases of beer and boxes of wine I stowed in the compartment beneath the forward berth. I was amazed at how much can goods you can stow in the galley sole compartment. Most all of my tools and fasteners stow in the setee in separate boxes in the center of the boat. Both reefers were chuck block full, as my mother would say. Those Sterlite plastic containers with side latch on lids from Walmart work great for condiments on the upper shelf of the fridge. I keep refreshments in the lower part of the fridge. Rubbermaid containers size #7 work great for storing stuff on end in the small back shelfs in the main cabin hanging lockers (adhesives, spare gloves, sewing stuff, etc.). I also stack them on top of each other in the small locker next (left side) to the nav table, which are full of flares, spare GPS and like stuff. Belle-Vie was loaded with room to spare. Terry
loading up...with beer
Rick Won't be mixing beer with olives...beer is expensive in the Bahamas, rum is cheap. as the boat floats ligher and higher, I'll load more rum ballast to offset the losses. The olives are for the admiral, she loves them. Gotta keep her happy. Thanks for all the answers.
Rick Won't be mixing beer with olives...beer is expensive in the Bahamas, rum is cheap. as the boat floats ligher and higher, I'll load more rum ballast to offset the losses. The olives are for the admiral, she loves them. Gotta keep her happy. Thanks for all the answers.
P 42 cruising weight
Hi Ted, We've loaded our 1990 Passage 42 up with as much weight, and more, than you describe. We haven't taken as much beer aboard, but have added more weight than that with other items. We cruised for over seven years in out-of-the-way places, so we loaded up with heavy items that you ordinarily wouldn't take, such as a spare starter motor, compression plate, etc. Also air compressor, two complete scuba tank set-ups, weight belts, etc. Three 8D batteries, several anchors, including an 80 lb. Luke, 350 feet of 5/16" chain plus spare 150" chain, etc. etc. Our dingy set-up and extra fuel set-up matched your weights almost exactly. I spent a few years working extra hard cleaning the slime from above the waterline, and then raised the waterline up to the top of the boot stripe. (Sanded, two-part epoxy primer, then anti-fouling). I figure my actual waterline is up about three inches from where I started, and that is still below where my painted waterline is at. I'm very happy I did that. Doesn't look as nice, I guess, but a WHOLE lot less work. We saw many cruisers raising waterlines. The bottom line: the boat handled just as well, and still fast enough that we depower her regularly so we can cruise her at 6 knots and below (unless we're trying to beat weather, etc). ENJOY your cruise. I'll be thinking about you as I winter in Anchorage this year.
Hi Ted, We've loaded our 1990 Passage 42 up with as much weight, and more, than you describe. We haven't taken as much beer aboard, but have added more weight than that with other items. We cruised for over seven years in out-of-the-way places, so we loaded up with heavy items that you ordinarily wouldn't take, such as a spare starter motor, compression plate, etc. Also air compressor, two complete scuba tank set-ups, weight belts, etc. Three 8D batteries, several anchors, including an 80 lb. Luke, 350 feet of 5/16" chain plus spare 150" chain, etc. etc. Our dingy set-up and extra fuel set-up matched your weights almost exactly. I spent a few years working extra hard cleaning the slime from above the waterline, and then raised the waterline up to the top of the boot stripe. (Sanded, two-part epoxy primer, then anti-fouling). I figure my actual waterline is up about three inches from where I started, and that is still below where my painted waterline is at. I'm very happy I did that. Doesn't look as nice, I guess, but a WHOLE lot less work. We saw many cruisers raising waterlines. The bottom line: the boat handled just as well, and still fast enough that we depower her regularly so we can cruise her at 6 knots and below (unless we're trying to beat weather, etc). ENJOY your cruise. I'll be thinking about you as I winter in Anchorage this year.
Dink local beer.
Kalik is a good beer and is widely available and the price difference is negligible if you shop where the locals do. We used to take extra diesel,gas and provisions, but not anymore; unless you are heading directly for the out islands everything is available. There is one exception, paper products, take paper towel, toilet paper, paper plates and cups as the price for those is high. An air compressor? it may be useful to inflate them fenders.
Kalik is a good beer and is widely available and the price difference is negligible if you shop where the locals do. We used to take extra diesel,gas and provisions, but not anymore; unless you are heading directly for the out islands everything is available. There is one exception, paper products, take paper towel, toilet paper, paper plates and cups as the price for those is high. An air compressor? it may be useful to inflate them fenders.
not yet
Paul Don't think about me this winter. I'll be stuck in freezing Detroit. I'm still doing my homework at this point. My main focus is a P42 but I'm not ready to pull the trigger just yet. Your comments have been helpful in my research, thanks.
Paul Don't think about me this winter. I'll be stuck in freezing Detroit. I'm still doing my homework at this point. My main focus is a P42 but I'm not ready to pull the trigger just yet. Your comments have been helpful in my research, thanks.
air compressor
No, we didn't use it to inflate the fenders, but I'm sorry I didn't think of that! We deflate the fenders for stowage, and then inflate them when we know we have to go to a Customs dock or some other dock for clearance. The air compressor is for scuba diving. It's a small Coltri compressor, and is of a type often sold as a Nautica. We have removed the compressor from the usual 5 HP Honda gasoline engine, and mounted it on the same support we use for our generator. Our generator is a 5 HP diesel Kubota, and it is mounted above the main engine, on that platform made for a genset. The generator powers either a 130 amp alternator or the scuba compressor, depending on which electric clutch we have engaged at the time. Ted, sorry to hear that you're trapped this winter, like the rest of us. But, as they say, misery loves company . . . . At least we can all dream about cruising.
No, we didn't use it to inflate the fenders, but I'm sorry I didn't think of that! We deflate the fenders for stowage, and then inflate them when we know we have to go to a Customs dock or some other dock for clearance. The air compressor is for scuba diving. It's a small Coltri compressor, and is of a type often sold as a Nautica. We have removed the compressor from the usual 5 HP Honda gasoline engine, and mounted it on the same support we use for our generator. Our generator is a 5 HP diesel Kubota, and it is mounted above the main engine, on that platform made for a genset. The generator powers either a 130 amp alternator or the scuba compressor, depending on which electric clutch we have engaged at the time. Ted, sorry to hear that you're trapped this winter, like the rest of us. But, as they say, misery loves company . . . . At least we can all dream about cruising.
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