Live Aboard Question

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May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
I am beginning to think about becoming a live aboard. I am not talking about cutting my ties, leaving my job, and sailing off into the deep blue (that isn't for a while) but I am thinking about living aboard a boat part time. I just found out, last night, that my wife doesn't have "those feelings" for me anymore. My marriage is coming to an end and I am no longer living at home. The good thing is that we don't have any kids, we just have the finances to deal with. I am trying to move on with my life and it is really hard. I have been thinking about selling my current boat (Catalina 30) and getting a different boat to live aboard. What boat would you choose if you were going to live aboard? What features are necessary for living aboard? Price restriction is probably around 50K and the draft restriction is around 5 feet max. I am not opposed to an older boat and I tend to like working on my boat and fixing it up (it is the best way to learn your boat). Some ideas that I have had are: Pearson 365 Down Easter 38 and similar boats. Any suggestions or information would be greatly appreciated as I am just starting to research this (it is a good way of keeping my mind off of the other stuff that is really tearing me up).
 

Phil Herring

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Mar 25, 1997
4,924
- - Bainbridge Island
Sorry to hear that

That really is a bummer, but if it's any consolation, most of us on this board have been there... and survived. Living aboard is a great idea and I believe it will be very healing as well. I lived aboard for four years in circumstances not unlike yours, and IMHO the most important things are: - Refrigeration. 12v is great for living aboard because your batteries are always charged and you don't need to run the engine. - Heat, if you need it in the winter. Forced air will help with condensation. - The head. You'll want a sound system with decent holding tankage and for my money, a usable shower. Good luck -- it gets easier and in fact, a hell of a lot better than it was before.
 
Mar 28, 2007
637
Oday 23 Anna Maria Isl.
Sorry to hear about your situation at home

If I were you, I would move on to your boat tonight! It will help clear your head and keep you sane. There will be nice people around. Just grab the bare necessities and make a run for it! It is your time! After a while, Put out the word that you want to move up. Someone else will be looking to move down. People will talk and magic will happen. After you read this, put doubt aside, turn off the computer, get up and get going!!!! GOOD LUCK!
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
Right now I am actually living between 3 places

I stayed on the boat last night. I do okay but I definately need more space and some other necessities to make it work. My parents live right by where I keep the boat so I am also staying there. It helps. I keep the boat 1.5 hours from where I work and I drive a diesel. This means that I really don't want to commute back and forth so I have a friend that will let me crash at his place while I am working. It is so nice to get support from everyone. This is really hard to go through and to be honest, I would do anything just to get back with my wife and make the marriage work. The last few months, between health, work, and marriage has been a living hell and I really appreciate any support. You guys are great. Deep down I have hope that it will work out but I know that it won't and she is already gone!
 
Apr 26, 2005
286
Beneteau Oceanis 390 Tsehum Harbour, BC, Canada
Quick Decisions

Quick decisions in times of stress may not be the best ones in the longer term. Humans (and me) have a tendency to overload ourselves with distractions in times of emotional pain. It might be advisable to not make any major changes such as new boat in your life right now until things become a little clearer. When you become more settled might be the time to make major decisions. I was there once many years ago and survived well, just took time. A good counsellor will help you work through these tough times. A company plan might be available. I wish you well, Pete
 
Sep 6, 2007
324
Catalina 320 Gulfport, Fl
Sorry to hear that....

That being said...I personally like a center cockpit boat with the larger aft cockpit, but you can do the same thig with something like the catalina 38 or larger with the aft cabin. Don't be in a rush to get it. Moving too fast can and in many cases present problems you can not fore see at the present time. It has been said always waite 6 months before making a major change. It gives you a chance to weigh the possibilities. I'm not sure where Colonial Beach is, but some of the things you may want are...central A/C with the reverese cycle heating, as said above 12 volt refrigeration, a good head yes but also a place with good showers at the marina. Let those showers get wet and keep your head dry to prevent mildew. Be prepaired to be a minimalist especially if you want to continue to sail the boat. Nothing puts a damper on a days sail like having to spend a couple of hours stowing your "stuff" to go sailing. Good luck...I hope the future is brighter for you than your presant situation. It is great that you have a support system close by. Patrick
 
May 5, 2006
1,140
Knutson K-35 Yawl Bellingham
My first wife asked me to move out on an Easter Sunday

after I hunted eggs with the kids. I went through 60 days of hell but it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. I ended up with the kids, a new woman (dang what a difference) and life went on. Stay with your Bud until ya get a new boat and moor it closer to work and then move aboard. Good luck to ya. Do yourself a favor and don't spend too much time looking back.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
Hang In

Go slow what ever you do and don't make any changes too fast. Many years a go I did not see the writing on the wall when my x left me and my two son's for some one else and went to another state. So I know what you are feeling and it really hurt and almost did me in but my son's needed me and I worked too many years to let her screw me up. Best thing ever happen, her not happy any more with me and kids,me and the kids did just fine and met angel from heaven,we are happy married for 15 years two grand children and every thing is super and she is unhappy again and hasn't seen her son's and grandchildren for years. Maybe things will work out with you and her or maybe you will do just fine,go slow and let your friends and family help until the smoke clears. Nick
 
Dec 24, 2003
233
- - Va. Beach, Va
I've been there also

As bad as it is now, things WILL get better. Stay strong, move on, get some Zolof if you feel you need it, don't let her beat you up, and remember, when one door closes, another opens. Keep your head together, don't give up or give everything away. You WILL have a great future. As far as a good liveaboard boat: for the money, consider an old Morgan 41OI. Big old CC, that will give you more live-aboard-ability for the buck than just about anything else. And you can find one in your price range. Good luck.... Your world next year WILL be totally different and totally better than today. I know, a few years ago, I wet thru what you are going thru now.... I am SOO much better off now, I can't believe how I could have let myself be manipulated by "her". Have faith in yourself !
 
L

Liam

Make life what you want it to be

My first wife walked out on me after 24 years. I was absolutely crushed! Didn't even see it coming. I spent about 3 months feeling sorry for myself. Then I thought F___ this! How long do I want to feel this way? I quit my job and went traveling for a year. I had a fantastic time getting to know myself and understanding what I wanted from life. That was ten years ago. Once I started looking forward to what I wanted instead of looking back and blaming myself things improved rather quickly. Opportunities came my way and I was free to pursue them or not. I didn't always make the right choices but all in all my life has moved forward in a very positive way. I believe that once I understood who I was and started living my life my way I began attracting friends and lovers who really cared about me and not just what I could do for them. Hang tough and take it slowly. You will figure it out and it will DEFINATELY be better.
 
Mar 21, 2004
2,175
Hunter 356 Cobb Island, MD
Bad Obsession - when do you get back?

Sorry to hear about the problems. Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt. Now I have Joan. I don't think I can improve on what has already been said. Was on a Morgan (which is the link) very impressed with the boat and livability of it. Go slow, Go slow. Don't know how old you are but think of where you want to be in 10,20 year. Go slow. Jim
 
Nov 12, 2006
256
Catalina 36 Bainbridge Island
Just remember

that the boat needs to be one that you love to sail (and look at).
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
Thanks Guys

Again, thanks for the support. Without family and friends this would be much worse. Jim...Got back a week ago last sunday. Went back to work one day and it was okay. Tried to go to work the next day and I had horrible back pain and I started getting sick so I was sent home. Ended up in the emergency room and found out that I had Kidney Stones (That was very painful). Wife didn't even bother to check on me at the emergency room or the next day while I was laid up at home because she was house sitting and she had a migrane. I guess that I was lucky because I had been out for 14 days on the boat (wife didn't really join me on the boat because we went to Virginia Beach together, in her car, and we got a hotel room (I did that because she doesn't like the boat and I was more than willing to work around her). I went to Hampton by boat and then back north to Solomins. Good Trip. As far as my age, I am 30. I guess that it is good because I am still considered young. I really don't feel my age because I have lived hard. In the last few years I have had a heart attack, had a stint placed in my heart, gotten into a fight with an armed guy (work related because I am a police officer) and almost had to kill him, broken my arm bad enough to get two metal supports and 12 screws, had kidney stones, and then had uncontrollable high blood pressure (related to job and at home stress). Unfortunately I don't have anywhere closer to put my boat because Culpeper is landlocked. I don't know much about the Morgan Outisland boats. I have heard that they aren't great sailors and they were designed for the charter industry. I like a classic design and I really like an aft cockpit. I guess that I am going to try to re-focus my life on the one thing that hasn't done me in....sailing. I think that you guys are probably right and I intend to take things slowly (I am mainly researching this). My life goals have been to retire at 50 and make the trip south for the winter. I can get almost a month off of work in a normal year to cruise so I can spend a lot of time out there. Looking at things now, if my marriage doesn't work out it is probably for the best. She was litterly killing me because of the stress levels that I have been running on account of her. I would love to find a woman who is as passionate about sailing as I am and one who would love to head out for extended cruising. Of course, a woman like that would be hard to find in an area like Culpeper, VA.
 
Jun 12, 2004
1,181
Allied Mistress 39 Ketch Kemah,Tx.
Sorry to hear that.

But....things always work out for the best. I been there and done that twice (slow learner). When I lost everything in hurricane Katrina, people would say, "i'm so sorry for you" and i would reply that I was divorced twice and am getting used to starting over again. Anyway, as others have said, dont make any quick decisions. As for your Catalina 30, me and GF lived on ours for 4 years and were very comfortable in it. Everyone does have different levels of comfort. We had central heat and air, 3 burner stove and oven and a small refrigerator, microwave, crockpot, electric skillet etc. This is probably not a good time for you to take on another debt. Consider that you may take a while to sell your Catalina 30, so if you want a bigger boat, sell the Cat first. Tony B
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,204
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Join A Yacht Club

It doesn't have to be a big or expensive one. A volunteer club is often better anyway. Good connections, around people who like to sail, you can hook up with one of the women's sailing associations and volunteer your boat and if all this turns out to be so much BS, quit. Not much to lose. Try it. PS: it took decades to tell people my first wife ran off with a hairdresser from Balboa Island........ things definitely get better.
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
Talk about perdictions

In college I was a creative writing minor and I did most of my work in poetry. The opening stanza to my best poem went..... Tonight I sail On the stiff back of a gale Never looking back Seldom dropping sail All I have known Is the lonesome sea Nothing else has loved so much And all I have loved has left me Just saw that as I was passing through some things. One of these days I want to get the whole poem published. I do agree with you all.....Time is definately on my side. It is just a bitter pill to swallow.
 
Jan 13, 2006
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- - Chesapeke
OK

Now that we have a commom thread as it seems we all have been there done that some of us twice, that in itself should help you feel less isolated. Seems it's part of life. I'll add "If you don't know what to do, DON'T DO NUTHIN!" It's really easy to make a tennative situation worse (cops have a habbit of that) It's a learned control issue, at work you have to be in control of all situations or bad stuff can happen. It ain't that way in the rest of life. You get free counsoling at work so go get it. After you ride out this storm it will become clear. 1 more truth "If you can control just yourself, you're ahead of 90% of the population"
 

Ctskip

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Sep 21, 2005
732
other 12 wet water
There's not much more to add

as most everyone is speaking from experience. Not only go slowly, but remember we are our own worst enemy. Nobody can do a better job on our psych than we can do to our selves. We beat up ourselves up real good. The worst thing is looking backwards. Look forward and talk it out. It's real good therapy. I also liked the part about joining a yacht club and teaching sailing, using your boat. What fun that would be. Life is good, Keep it up, Ctskip
 
Jan 27, 2007
383
Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
you can live on anyting but

Light, water, toilet, microwave, a small tv, computer, and cell phone is all that I can think of. I lived in my Dodge Omni for a month when my ex locked me out. I wouodn't want to camp out like that again, but anyting is possible. A Catalina 30 should be more than adequate, but you might look at a boat the same size or larger that you can butcher the interior to suit your needs, and won't depreciate from the value. As in one guy at our marina bought a sailboat that sunk to live on. The motor is toast, and he can do what he wants on the interior, which he is.
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
You guys are good support

Thank you guys so much for the support. I really need it and it is good to get good advice and a kind word. I know that I will end up being better without her because she never really treated me that good. It is just hard to sacrifice the other things in life that I had held near and dear. It is like loosing 1/2 of my family because I was Extremely close with her family. I hope that she will wake up, someday soon, and realize that she lost something really special. I am the type of guy that would have done anything for her and she never head to worry about loyality. Maybe I wasn't always as supportive as she would have liked me to be, but it is a two way street and she never supported me when I really needed support and love. Not many guys would tolerate their wife running a foster home for an animal shelter in their home and having 11 or more cats inside of the house. I don't even care that much for cats but I just passively resisted it. Not many guys would have been okay with their wife going out and buying a $8000 horse and not telling them about it until you got the loan payment from the bank. In a way I wish that I was in an area with more boaters. It is not as common to see sailors in my area that are my age. Most are guys, most are married, and most of them don't have wives that sail with them. After being out of the dating market for 7 years I don't know where to start. Strangely, I feel as though I would like to start dating again soon and it would be a helpful step to move on. Thank you guys again for everything.
 
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