Link 2000 keeps going into Charge mode

Jul 5, 2005
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Catalina Capri 22 Alum Creek Sailing Association
hi all, just got to the boat for the weekend, and found the Xantrex Link 2000 in Charge mode. I switched off the battery charger and AC main for a few minutes then turned them back on, and that seemed to fix it, but couple hours later it’s back in Charge mode. Any idea what the problem is? Hooked up to shore power this whole time.
 
Jun 6, 2006
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currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
So the fact that the batteries are being charged and link 2000 being in charge mode is causing concern? Perhaps an explanation of why you think the battery charger being on and the link 200 bing in charge mode is a problem is in order for those of use that have not used the link 2000
 

JamesG161

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Feb 14, 2014
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Charge Mode is reset Automatically when shore power is interrupted or plugged in.
It is called "Auto Switching" so that your generator or house battery Inverter doesn't get mixed with shore power.

Check for loose shore power connections.
Jim...
 
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JamesG161

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Feb 14, 2014
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charge mode is causing concern?
Yes! For me.
Since I have Wet Cell house Batteries and the float charge and smart aspects of the Charger needs continued "feedback"
So...
My 2000 sends a very small 0.2 amp float to the Batteries.
This float does keep the wet cells "gassing" off and eventually drops the electrolyte level. Bad thing, if forgotten.
Jim....
 
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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
When in doubt, read pages 30&31 of the manual. I just had to reset my Link 2000 the other day for only the second time since 2003 or 6.
My 2000 sends a very small 0.2 amp float to the Batteries.
I find that hard to believe, since I've had my Link for over a decade and have memorized the manual. Care to show me where it says it does that, or could it be that it's only for your specific charger (which you didn't mention)?
 
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Jul 5, 2005
219
Catalina Capri 22 Alum Creek Sailing Association
Thanks all. I turned off the charger and ac main again, waitied a few minutes and switched them on again, and it’s staying in Float mode for the most part. I caught it in Accept mode this morning, but it shortly thereafter went back into float mode.

Shore power cord seems as tight as ever. I’ll dig out the manual, Stu.

Bill, the reason I was concerned is because i’ve never noticed the charger go back into Charge or Accept mode once it reaches Float after being plugged into shore power. It was just unusual behavior.
 

JamesG161

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I find that hard to believe
Try this meter on your battery with all Sources of DC use off and battery charger "floating"
https://www.amazon.com/Eventek-Auto...r=8-3-spons&keywords=dc+amp+clamp+meter&psc=1

I did and from two different meter measured ≈ 0.2 amps when my OLD time Freedom 2000 was "floating".
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Definition of any type of controller, requires a FEEDBACK signal. Some IC's have temperature of battery as feedback too.
It cannot be just VDC to control a charge or it is not "smart", so at least MINE has to "trickle" a small amp load to "float" or it will Overcharge.

I would suggest calling Xantrex and ask them what is their trickle amp load is, for your Model Number.
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@Ben4195 the possible variation or even minor interruptions may be on the Shore power box.
The only way to monitor that, is with a recording Voltmeter, if not an obvious "Flicker"

seems as tight as ever
Tight is a first verification. Do you have a spare shore power cord?
Do you have a genset as an alternate 120VDC source?
Can you test it on another shore power box?
Jim...

PS: Manual reading is a great source of USER info, but usually is for the USER.
PSS: The auto switching source power is very fast, for boat electrical safety.
 

walt

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Jun 1, 2007
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Macgregor 26S Hobie TI Ridgway Colorado
Couple things about the way my solar charge controller works - likely similar for this case.

First, in float (assuming a smart charger), the controller wants to maintain the float voltage (my solar charger is set to 13.8 volts for this). The charger will simply supply whatever current is needed to maintain that voltage of 13.8. Once in float, the current required has many variables including how large is the battery bank, temperature, leakage likely dependent on age etc. Likely how long you have been in float also is a variable. The controller is just trying to keep the voltage constant so trying to compare what current is needed to maintain that voltage between boat systems with all of the variables is not really conclusive of anything.

Also, once my solar charge controller gets into the float stage where it is trying to maintain 13.8 volts it will just stay in float. However, if a load is put on the system that drops the battery voltage to under 13.2 volts for at least a minute, a new charge cycle is initiated. In float, the charger is simply trying to maintain 13.8 volts so if the charger has enough current capability to supply any loads, the charger current will still keep the voltage at 13.8 and also supply the load current.

But if the load current exceeds what the charger can put out, the battery voltage could drop down below the set point to start a new cycle (13.2 in my case) if the voltage stays below that voltage for at least one minute. I have a electric fridge running off solar and will have this happen if the solar output drops later in the day from clouds and doesnt supply enough current to run the fridge. Solar controller will start a new fresh charging cycle.

For the OP case, I dont know how much current that charger will put out or what the loads are on the boat but the above "could" be a reason for seeing the charger switch from float to charge.

FYI, most solar charge controllers repeat the charge cycle every day..
 
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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Definition of any type of controller, requires a FEEDBACK signal. Some IC's have temperature of battery as feedback too.
It cannot be just VDC to control a charge or it is not "smart", so at least MINE has to "trickle" a small amp load to "float" or it will Overcharge.
I do not doubt the "concept" of what you are saying. I do, however, suggest that you find some documentation of this for the Freedom and the Link 2000. Mine is a Heart Unit, and you can call Xantrex if you want, I don't. Could that 0.2A be the backlighting and the meter's own power? That is what the wiring section of the manual says (pages 37&38). The "control" to the Freedom unit is in the phone patch cable.

Point being your idea is a theory and I haven't, in 20 years, seen proof of it. The manual explains how the Link works with the Freedom, which is ONLY declared battery capacity, charged voltage and charged current %.


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You may not have seen these links:

For everyone installing a battery monitor: The "Gotcha Algorithm" thread, a "MUST READ"

http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,4922.0.html

DEFAULTS are factory settings that are made to be modified to suit your setup.

Also read this one:

Programming a Battery Monitor (by Maine Sail)

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/programming_a_battery_monitor

and his newer 'site

https://marinehowto.com/programming-a-battery-monitor/
 
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JamesG161

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Feb 14, 2014
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reedom and the Link 2000. Mine is a Heart Unit
Mine too.
I just read the documentation and the Idle sensitivity is 4 watts or at the float of 13.5 VDC =
0.3 amps
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Jim...
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Guys all these devices are voltage regulated, as Walt has clearly explained. If your bank is intended to float at say 13.6V it may get down to a point where the charge current blips on and off, as needed, to maintain the 13.6V float regulation voltage,. The bank, due to size & state of health, may also just continually require .2A at 13.6V. At float voltage, if you are using a lot of water, something is wrong or you have dockside loads running that are re-triggering absorption....
 
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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I just read the documentation and the Idle sensitivity is 4 watts...
Nope, this is for the inverter standby. Page 8.

Jim, perhaps you could state the page number of this information you are referencing, like I am.
 
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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
I think this electrical monitoring systems may be providing too much information. It seems exhausting the frequent pleas for information regarding the meaning of the monitoring readings. I must be old school but the sound of the engine starter can usually tell me all I need to know. I have a two battery system, and inboard smart charger and a generator and have not had a crippling problem in years.
 
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Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
regarding the meaning of the monitoring readings.
Actually, that is NOT what this dialog is about. What it is about is how the charger works connected to the Link 2000. I believe it is important so that the OP doesn't become misled about his original question.
 
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