O.K., So, Mr.Irwin thought he had a better idea with his lifeline stanchion installation. It seemed like a good idea at the time anyway. I have a 1982 Irwin Citation and all of the bases have loosened up to the point where they are in need of some form a repair (Longer and heavier screws just aren't working anymore) and it would appear that maybe an epoxy fill and redrill may be the best way to go. Has anyone else out there had this problem? And how did you go about fixing it? I'm open for some suggestions.*!
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Tim
Filling with Epoxy works but
I did this to our 37 cc last summer. The pockets that hold the stantions are just glassed in blocks of wood. They had rotted leaving a square void. Clean out what yo can with a drill and vacume up the sawdust, Acetone to clean then fill with epoxy. You will want to fill in 2 or 3 settings as when i filled all at once the eposy generated a lot (smoking lot) of heat. Cooler and slower will give a better bond. Then drill out to 1 inch and fill with 4200
I did this to our 37 cc last summer. The pockets that hold the stantions are just glassed in blocks of wood. They had rotted leaving a square void. Clean out what yo can with a drill and vacume up the sawdust, Acetone to clean then fill with epoxy. You will want to fill in 2 or 3 settings as when i filled all at once the eposy generated a lot (smoking lot) of heat. Cooler and slower will give a better bond. Then drill out to 1 inch and fill with 4200
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Randy Young
Hmmm
Hmmm. Sounds as if you might have had a different installation. Mine are all just screwed into a wooden base and set in a way that there is no access to them without removing the entire interior, but Thanx a lot. That would have been much simpler. What year/model was your boat? Randy
Hmmm. Sounds as if you might have had a different installation. Mine are all just screwed into a wooden base and set in a way that there is no access to them without removing the entire interior, but Thanx a lot. That would have been much simpler. What year/model was your boat? Randy
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Randy Young
My thoughts exactly
Tim,your repair is exactly what I had in mind and you seem to have had the same problem. My question now is, "Were you successful? Did it work?" Or is this something I would be just better off living with and nursing along? Randy
Tim,your repair is exactly what I had in mind and you seem to have had the same problem. My question now is, "Were you successful? Did it work?" Or is this something I would be just better off living with and nursing along? Randy
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KptnKen
Refastening Stauntions
I purchased my Irwin 31 Citation 1986 last spring. The surveyor advised that moisture will work it's way into the laminate under the stauntionss and the best remediation is to allow it to dry out as thoroughly as possible, then apply epoxy resin, re-drill and if you can, apply a back plate. Just before tightening the bolts, apply some vinyl sealant. This will stay further water penetration (for a while). Good Luck Ken
I purchased my Irwin 31 Citation 1986 last spring. The surveyor advised that moisture will work it's way into the laminate under the stauntionss and the best remediation is to allow it to dry out as thoroughly as possible, then apply epoxy resin, re-drill and if you can, apply a back plate. Just before tightening the bolts, apply some vinyl sealant. This will stay further water penetration (for a while). Good Luck Ken
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Randy Young
So far.......
KaptnKen, Well that seems to make three of us that are in some sort of agreement as to how to fix this. This epoxy idea seems to be the way to go so far. Any other ideas out there? I'm just wondering if there's any permanance to it. It just seems that screwing into epoxy isn't a whole lot better than screwing into wood.
KaptnKen, Well that seems to make three of us that are in some sort of agreement as to how to fix this. This epoxy idea seems to be the way to go so far. Any other ideas out there? I'm just wondering if there's any permanance to it. It just seems that screwing into epoxy isn't a whole lot better than screwing into wood.
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Tim
Should have added ..it worked
Yes the epoxy did work but I forgot to add thatthe resin was mixed with chopped fiber and thickener to proovide some additional strength.. I packed the holes and then when I say them smoking I put a hose on the outside of the hull to cool it off. It still kicked very quickly. After this I was able to drill them out and they are very firm. two of the stantions were not mounted in the backing blocks. They were drilled along side. FOr these I added a backing block and glassed it in. Then drilled and filled with epoxy and when this cured redrilled. This was not a lot of work as I had the toe rails off to rebed and clean up the hull to deck join.
Yes the epoxy did work but I forgot to add thatthe resin was mixed with chopped fiber and thickener to proovide some additional strength.. I packed the holes and then when I say them smoking I put a hose on the outside of the hull to cool it off. It still kicked very quickly. After this I was able to drill them out and they are very firm. two of the stantions were not mounted in the backing blocks. They were drilled along side. FOr these I added a backing block and glassed it in. Then drilled and filled with epoxy and when this cured redrilled. This was not a lot of work as I had the toe rails off to rebed and clean up the hull to deck join.
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