I was told the first concern of any organization is the continued existence of that organization. I guess for some it is better to spend a million to raise 1.5 million than it is to take in less money to do more stuff. Some "charities" I won't give money to because their CEO's are making a killing. http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=423 The devil is in the details but the CBF looks like a good organization. If I remember correctly they spent about 80% or their money on projects and education. 13% for fundraising does not seem unreasonable. The strategic communications item??? Anyway they seem OK at face value.
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Moony, When a major part of the education program involves lobbying congress with paid professionals then the statistics get rather cloudy. They use volunteers to set up booths at boat shows and other water front events and provide them with printed materials.
I have no direct knowledge of the CBF just their web page. If they are so corrupt is there a honest group out to protect the Chesapeake Bay?? Some group needs to work for cleanup. even something as simple as stopping the menhaden harvest in the bay would help. Filter feeders would help the bay and the menhaden seem willing and able to help if humans would just stop grinding the menhaden into chicken feed that ends up as chicken poop that gets back into the bay to add to the pollution.
http://motherjones.com/environment/2006/03/net-losses-declaring-war-menhaden
http://motherjones.com/environment/2006/03/net-losses-declaring-war-menhaden
I have been the most vociferous in decrying the CBF but I am not asserting they are corrupt. I feel they have become a "think-tank". They are more concerned about lobbying and educating than doing something directly to clean the bay.
My anger is a reflection of disillusion. I am friends with many avid CBF supporters and used to count myself as one. I just got tired of nothing improving then they built that hq in a sensitive area while working to prevent others from doing the same.
IMHO the group doing the most with the least is the Riverkeeper organization. They are newcomers who are getting results and every one of the Riverkeeps is an independent group. You can make a difference through them because you become important to them.
I'm not shilling for them and as you've seen from my emails I am for ending the talk and getting something done.
I just read about the Asian Carp crisis in the Mississippi river and Great Lakes and how some are using the carp to provide Omega-3 fish oil. That might be how we could relieve the pressure on the menhaden.
Again, I think the CBF has just lost its way.
My anger is a reflection of disillusion. I am friends with many avid CBF supporters and used to count myself as one. I just got tired of nothing improving then they built that hq in a sensitive area while working to prevent others from doing the same.
IMHO the group doing the most with the least is the Riverkeeper organization. They are newcomers who are getting results and every one of the Riverkeeps is an independent group. You can make a difference through them because you become important to them.
I'm not shilling for them and as you've seen from my emails I am for ending the talk and getting something done.
I just read about the Asian Carp crisis in the Mississippi river and Great Lakes and how some are using the carp to provide Omega-3 fish oil. That might be how we could relieve the pressure on the menhaden.
Again, I think the CBF has just lost its way.
CBF is run by people that are ignoring the real sources of pollution because it is to politically costly to do so.
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About 3 years ago I was involved with a waterfront town home development project in Colonial Beach, VA. The developers had cleared some trees that had be knocked down as a result of Isabel withing the 100' Riparian buffer as allowed by the town. Well, the neighbors that opposed the project got Chesapeake Bay Foundation involved. I don't want to bore you here, but they were concerned with every plant species within this buffer being returned back to the Riparian standards, yet when we pointed out that "every time it rains the town yard overflows and sewage runs right into the bay through that pipe there", they looked the other way, "that's not why we are here".
Also, there are literally hundreds of miles of naturally eroding cliffs around the bay, and their concern was with a balance of plant species so there would be no erosion from out project.
The bottom line is, politics is playing a big role in not fixing the real sources of pollution.
Posted on an earlier thread:
About 3 years ago I was involved with a waterfront town home development project in Colonial Beach, VA. The developers had cleared some trees that had be knocked down as a result of Isabel withing the 100' Riparian buffer as allowed by the town. Well, the neighbors that opposed the project got Chesapeake Bay Foundation involved. I don't want to bore you here, but they were concerned with every plant species within this buffer being returned back to the Riparian standards, yet when we pointed out that "every time it rains the town yard overflows and sewage runs right into the bay through that pipe there", they looked the other way, "that's not why we are here".
Also, there are literally hundreds of miles of naturally eroding cliffs around the bay, and their concern was with a balance of plant species so there would be no erosion from out project.
The bottom line is, politics is playing a big role in not fixing the real sources of pollution.
Ross what about menhaden?? Are there fewer now than a few years ago?? Menhaden eat the same stuff as jellyfish. Noticed any increase in jellies as the menhaden decreased??
Moony, I don't know for certain but I rather suspect that the menhaden harvest or take is approximately equal to the present reproductive rate. But it should be reduced to about 70 percent of the reproductive rate in order to increase the stocks and clean the bay. At that rate of harvest the stocks would double every 3 years and in 25 years we would have a menhaden population that would allow greater harvest AND a cleaner bay.
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