Lee helm, a leak, damn power boater, advice on these.

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Oct 10, 2009
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Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
Whether I'm in a sailboat or not has nothing to do with it. I am on a busy lake with people going in all sorts of directions at high speeds. If I'm power boating I do the same thing, stay well away from others. It's not silly at all to do so.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Hey Kloudie...

Gave up my Sail subscription because I came to feel that they cared more for the Swan/Morris Yacht crowd than the average guy...
 
Oct 21, 2011
109
O Day Mariner 2+2 my driveway/ Lake Wallenpalpac
thanks!
I went up yesaterday to repair the "step leak" look at the drop down keel, a few other things that I thought we OK, but now......
The 2 screw holes go into the keel well.
I took a good lenght of mechanic wire and pushed it into the hole.
I then dropped the keel to the present knot the P.O. had installed in the keel lower line.
Stripped off my clothes, dawned my goggles and went for a swin.
Jesus!! The water up there is like green from the "Dark Lagoon"! Nasty!!!! Got the "creepy crawlies" just thinking about all the stuff that may have been on my skin, (thank God they have showers at the camp site $4 worth of quarters to wash me off before I climb into my MG)!
The wire came out along side the keel.
Also the MOST important thing is the keel was only down a 1/3 of it if that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder I had Lee Helm!!!!!!!
The Expoxy filled the holes well, smeared a good patch over it.
hardened in 10 minutes or so.
then I mixed up some fiberlgass resin, some fiberglass matting and covered that.
After that hardned, I re installed the step sides, siliconed the sides in place.
I cut the old keel lowering line and watched the keel spool lower the keel, heard it go "clunk" into place (YES!) made up a new line.
There are 2 problems solved! A bit more standing rigging tuning and she should be good to go!
One thing I have learned, NEVER trust the P.O. setup! So far (at least on this boat), 90% of the rigging has been wrong, in the wrong location.
Now I think prehaps he sold it cuz it wouldn't sail????
I'm FAR from knowing what I am doing, most of what I've done was from looking at other boats, reading books, general common sense, asking questions at the classes I took, the fellow sailors at the marina. (there was a bunch up there last weekend, raising mast etc. Beiong the F.N.G. they had to come over and check us out. Got to help raise mast, set things on thier boat, was a great del of fun and got a lot of info. some good some????, but all stored in my 2 working brain cells!
Tonight I'm heading back up, gonna re assemble the step, hopefully it'll be calm enough to run a weight up the mast and see what the angle is, start my record book!
It was great yesterday I was there 3 hours and not a boat in sight! (but the rain squals rolled in and out, but the breeze! Man it was THERE)!
My new plan? Sailing on Wed after I get outta work (I can be there by 3)!
Joe
Final thoughts................. Owning a boat is like owning a motorcycle. Seems YOURS is always just a bit "cooler than MINE is"!!
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,240
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Funny, I've always experienced Lake Wallenpaupack as being nice and clean. I feel as refreshed swimming there as taking a shower. It certainly isn't nasty like the Hudson. Were you expecting nearly pristine, like Lake George?

Maybe in a marina environment with shallow, muddy water it looks pretty bad. I wouldn't swim near many marinas.
 

JVB

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Jan 26, 2006
270
Schock Wavelength 24 Lake Murray, SC
I believe the term "right of way" is superseded by "any collision that can be avoided should be avoided". Also, boats actively fishing or pulling skiers fall under limited maneuverability rules.

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RE DIC Q LUS to claim limited maneuverability for highly responsive ski tow boats. If the tow boat driver has to turn, slow, or stop to reduce the probability of a collision he/she should do so without considering the happiness of the skier. Limited maneuverability is a very unlikely cause for a tow boat or skier being in danger. More likely is the driver charging on oblivious to congestion or poor sight lines ahead.
 

LuzSD

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Feb 21, 2009
1,009
Catalina 30 San Diego/ Dana Point, Ca.
joes new addiction said:
thanks!
I went up yesaterday to repair the "step leak" look at the drop down keel, a few other things that I thought we OK, but now......
The 2 screw holes go into the keel well.
I took a good lenght of mechanic wire and pushed it into the hole.
I then dropped the keel to the present knot the P.O. had installed in the keel lower line.
Stripped off my clothes, dawned my goggles and went for a swin.
Jesus!! The water up there is like green from the "Dark Lagoon"! Nasty!!!! Got the "creepy crawlies" just thinking about all the stuff that may have been on my skin, (thank God they have showers at the camp site $4 worth of quarters to wash me off before I climb into my MG)!
The wire came out along side the keel.
Also the MOST important thing is the keel was only down a 1/3 of it if that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder I had Lee Helm!!!!!!!
The Expoxy filled the holes well, smeared a good patch over it.
hardened in 10 minutes or so.
then I mixed up some fiberlgass resin, some fiberglass matting and covered that.
After that hardned, I re installed the step sides, siliconed the sides in place.
I cut the old keel lowering line and watched the keel spool lower the keel, heard it go "clunk" into place (YES!) made up a new line.
There are 2 problems solved! A bit more standing rigging tuning and she should be good to go!
One thing I have learned, NEVER trust the P.O. setup! So far (at least on this boat), 90% of the rigging has been wrong, in the wrong location.
Now I think prehaps he sold it cuz it wouldn't sail????
I'm FAR from knowing what I am doing, most of what I've done was from looking at other boats, reading books, general common sense, asking questions at the classes I took, the fellow sailors at the marina. (there was a bunch up there last weekend, raising mast etc. Beiong the F.N.G. they had to come over and check us out. Got to help raise mast, set things on thier boat, was a great del of fun and got a lot of info. some good some????, but all stored in my 2 working brain cells!
Tonight I'm heading back up, gonna re assemble the step, hopefully it'll be calm enough to run a weight up the mast and see what the angle is, start my record book!
It was great yesterday I was there 3 hours and not a boat in sight! (but the rain squals rolled in and out, but the breeze! Man it was THERE)!
My new plan? Sailing on Wed after I get outta work (I can be there by 3)!
Joe
Final thoughts................. Owning a boat is like owning a motorcycle. Seems YOURS is always just a bit "cooler than MINE is"!!
I'm impressed joe, you are dedicated to improving your boat and yourself and i imagine one day you will be referred to as the old salt !
 

Bob J.

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Apr 14, 2009
774
Sabre 28 NH
Well I finally understand what the fuss is all about.

Went out sailing w/ a friend today. There we are at the junction of 2 channels just outside the marina entrance, I'm on the foredeck taking the genoa down when a power boater in a 26' cabin cruiser comes barreling down the other channel & at 50' away pulls back on the throttle. Nice wake, thank you very much. If you had just kept going up on plane we would have been better off. WTF
 
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