Leak source?

Feb 3, 2014
94
Hunter 44 aft cockpit Miami, FL
We have a leak that is at the headboard in our aft cabin. This occurs after a heavy rain. Our pillows and mattress end up wet. We can feel water on the top of the headboard. So it seems to be coming in above that level. In the cockpit, this would be between the binnacle and the emergency tiller cover. Anyone have any experience with this leak?
 

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Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
We have it covered. So possible, I suppose, but not likely?
It looks as though you have the front of the panel covered to block sun but not the top edge where the box actually attaches to the cockpit. I removed it and re-bedded with butyl. My bed is transverse while yours seems to be stern to bow. That being the case I believe there is an access panel in the ceiling on the port side, at least that is where mine is. Behind that panel they put the autopilot ram. There is a boot that seals the ram to the hull which you would access by pulling up the floor section behind the binnacle. That floor section is not really sealed as it is designed to wash aft and down the transom. This could be another location to check. I have a 41 but I think the 44 is pretty similar.
 

ALNims

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Jul 31, 2014
208
Hunter 356 Huis Ten Bosch Marina, Sasebo, Japan
I have found leaks by using a freshwater hose with low pressure over the suspected area. You can control where the hose is pointing and will be able to quickly pin point the area. I would also go around the suspect area and tighten any fasteners.
 
Jun 5, 2004
485
Hunter 44 Mystic, Ct
Leak Source

Take a look at the screws that hold down the cockpit floor section from the pedestal to the stern. If you look closely you should see that this is one solid section secured by 6 or 8 screws. 2 of the screws are actually on the vertical stern section. I remove this section every other year or so to clean out the junk that accumulates under it and around the auto pilot actuator. If you have never removed it, I suggest you do as its very easy and you will be amazed what you will find underneath it. We sail with our dog and one year there was enough fur to knit the proverbial sweater.

When reassembling, use a good amount of silicone sealant at each of the screw holes. We have the same configuration as you and this solved our problem.
 
Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
When reassembling, use a good amount of silicone sealant at each of the screw holes. We have the same configuration as you and this solved our problem.
Use Butyl for the screw holes. There are only six holes I believe on my 41 but either way the butyl works like a charm. Roll a little ball of it in your fingers and put it over the screw hole, when the floor goes down it will squish it and seal the hole.
 
Feb 3, 2014
94
Hunter 44 aft cockpit Miami, FL
I want to be sure I have this. I raise the panel and when closing it put the butyl on the BOTTOM of the hole, squish it when I lay it back into position and then inset the screw through the butyl?
 
Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
I want to be sure I have this. I raise the panel and when closing it put the butyl on the BOTTOM of the hole, squish it when I lay it back into position and then inset the screw through the butyl?
Exactly. I put a little ball of it over each hole, in the hull under the decking, BEFORE putting the deck back in place and squishing it. You could also put it on the bottom of the hole through the deck before installing. You won't be able to eye ball the hole under the deck any more as you will just see butyl, but it's easy to feel your way with the screw tip. By the way I always remove screws with a cordless impact gun or drill but always reinstall by hand.
 

BrianH

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Feb 14, 2005
104
Hunter 44 LaSalle, MI
I agree with what Uncledom says!

I had the exact same issue in my 2005 44ac. It happened after I off took the access panel to install the cabling for the chart plotter.

Mine also had a area also under that panel on the port side when cabling ( I think it was for the autohelm) was being run across the scupper that drained the cockpit on that side. The cabling partially blocked that scupper UNDER the access panel. It's possible that may have been the source of the leak. I cleaned up the excess silicone and redid it with a proper amount. I also made sure that the drain was not blocked at all.

A glob of sealer on each screw hole when re-installing it and no more problem.
 

eianm

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Jul 7, 2010
523
Hunter 42 Sydney
do you have davits mounted to rear? I had leaks from the davit bolts- removed davits and sealed holes- no more leak!
 
Feb 3, 2014
94
Hunter 44 aft cockpit Miami, FL
We do have davits

We DO have davits and did not think to check them. Thanks for the reminder.

I took up the cockpit cover aft of the binnacle yesterday and siliconed the two screw holes on the sole. The area APPEARED bone dry.

I found a tiny area where the silicone was missing on the top of the engine panel and gave it a new silicon seal.

My sense is that I've ruled out a couple of possible culprits but have not yet found my leak. I'll check the davits, stantion bases and cleats next week and then try a hose test.
 
Sep 11, 2011
428
Hunter 41AC Bayfield WI, Lake Superior
We have a leak that is at the headboard in our aft cabin. This occurs after a heavy rain. Our pillows and mattress end up wet. We can feel water on the top of the headboard. So it seems to be coming in above that level. In the cockpit, this would be between the binnacle and the emergency tiller cover. Anyone have any experience with this leak?
On our 2004 41ac, the bellows on the linear drive failed and could be the leak source. On the 41 you have 6 screws that hold the cockpit floor in place. The floor covers up the linkage from the binnacle to the rudder post and the linear drive bellows.
 
Feb 3, 2014
94
Hunter 44 aft cockpit Miami, FL
On our 2004 41ac, the bellows on the linear drive failed and could be the leak source. On the 41 you have 6 screws that hold the cockpit floor in place. The floor covers up the linkage from the binnacle to the rudder post and the linear drive bellows.
I'm not sure what the bellow is SUPPOSED to look like. If I'm thinking of the correct part it's a thin black neoprene (?) kind of bellows through which a rod goes fore and aft? What constitutes failure? Ripped? Fell off?
 

ALNims

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Jul 31, 2014
208
Hunter 356 Huis Ten Bosch Marina, Sasebo, Japan
I'm not sure what the bellow is SUPPOSED to look like. If I'm thinking of the correct part it's a thin black neoprene (?) kind of bellows through which a rod goes fore and aft? What constitutes failure? Ripped? Fell off?
Both examples you have mentioned are examples of a failed bellows. Any kind of crack or small cut or flaking is also a failure.
 
Sep 11, 2011
428
Hunter 41AC Bayfield WI, Lake Superior
I'm not sure what the bellow is SUPPOSED to look like. If I'm thinking of the correct part it's a thin black neoprene (?) kind of bellows through which a rod goes fore and aft? What constitutes failure? Ripped? Fell off?
It looks like the attchement
 

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Feb 3, 2014
94
Hunter 44 aft cockpit Miami, FL
Thanks. That clears it up. It appears that the rubber(?) bit is missing from yours? Mine is intact. Rich