Lazy Jacks

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albinvega3283

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Oct 30, 2019
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I am making Lazy Jacks for my Vega and wondered if any of you had any
thoughts as to where the top lines should be fitted. There seems to be
two options either one third away along the spreaders or to the sides
of the mast above the spreaders. Both options seem in throry to have
their advantages and disadvantages and I would be interested to hear
any of your views as to how the setup on your boat works in practice.

David Wisdish
V3283 Ponteneur
 
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stevebirch2002

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Nov 8, 2001
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Hi David

I made mine from 6mm braid on braid and used softeyes instead of blocks. I attached two mast pulleys halfway between the spreaders and teh top of teh mast then a corresponding cleat on each side. Works a treat, had them fitted for over 8 years now.

Cheers

SB
 
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albinvega3283

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Oct 30, 2019
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Thanks for the input Steve

David From: Steve Birch
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:19 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Lazy JacksHi David

I made mine from 6mm braid on braid and used softeyes instead of blocks. I attached two mast pulleys halfway between the spreaders and teh top of teh mast then a corresponding cleat on each side. Works a treat, had them fitted for over 8 years now.

Cheers

SB
 
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albinvega3283

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Oct 30, 2019
234
Steve

Do you find that the sail battens catch in the Lazy Jack lines when hoisting the sail? One of the reasons for attaching the Lazy Jack top lines to the spreaders is said to be preventing the battens catching and also to stop the lines slapping against the mast.

DavidFrom: Steve Birch
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:19 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Lazy JacksHi David

I made mine from 6mm braid on braid and used softeyes instead of blocks. I attached two mast pulleys halfway between the spreaders and teh top of teh mast then a corresponding cleat on each side. Works a treat, had them fitted for over 8 years now.

Cheers

SB
 
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stevebirch2002

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Nov 8, 2001
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Hi David

I find that with a fully battened main (like I have) it is more pronounced. You need to be heading direct into the wind to raise the mainsail. It wont really matter where you attach the lines on the mast but best place is two thirds up. My lines dont slap but then I keep them hard against the mast.

Hope that helps.

Cheers

SB
 
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halandcindy

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Nov 4, 2016
62
Greetings folks,I was wondering if any of you have installed lazy jacks and how you handled the issue of having roller reefing (thus not being able to attach the jack lines to the boom except at the very end). Thanks, Hal
 
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Gazuum

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Oct 23, 2010
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Pearson P365K Port Angeles
Why would you need lazy jacks if you have roller reefing boom?
Gordon

On 4/28/2017 1:35 PM,
halandcindy@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
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don_keenan

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Apr 27, 2013
28
If you have roller reeling you don't need lazy jacks. Just setup a topping lift for the end of your boom. The Vega has a relatively small main. With roller reefingyou will be reefing at the mast so you can easily control your main halyard from that location. If you are sailing alone mark your halyard so you can let it out in increments to allow you to roll the main easily. The toping lift will keep the end of the boom up to facilitate the rolling of the main..You might want to think about a single panel jiffy reef for your day sailing that will be satisfactory up to 30kts and the traveler down with a fisherman's reef (bubble in the leading edge) will take you to 35kts safely. This assumes you are down to your small head sail already Good luckDon Keenan Sent from my iPhone
 
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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
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Albin Vega 27 Limerick
I hadn't heard of a fisherman's reef before.So you just drop the main halyard a few inches and pull out a fold of sailcloth while keeping the outhaul tension on?Or have I got it wrong?Is the advantage that you can do it very fast?Thanks

John--

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halandcindy

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Nov 4, 2016
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Thanks Don, but I fear that I've not been clear as to why I wanted lazy jacks. I do a lot of single handed sailing and as I have only TWO hands, help would be nice when the main drops. Right now when I drop the main, if there is a breeze it can blow over the side or generally behave in a less than desirable manner. SO, I would like lazy jacks to prevent this and make the dropping of the main a much more effective process. I already have the halyards to the main and jib leading into the cockpit but that doesn't allow me to stay there given that the main is usually all over the place and in need of attention. The jib too needs attention but is usually much easier as it can be twisted upon itself quickly or tied off quickly to prevent it from going overboard. So the need for lazy jacks has nothing to do with reefing in my instance. I hope this helps in understanding my original post. I mentioned the roller reefing simply because the vast majority of lazy jack installments have the lines attached to the boom as they come down from their support line and with the roller system, this would not be possible, or extremely problematic. Thanks again. Hal
 
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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
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Albin Vega 27 Limerick
A 12v tiller pilot takes the drama out of raising and lowering sail for me. One of the best upgrades I made for the boat.--

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Rowboatload

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Oct 19, 2019
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Albin Vega Anacortes
I can imagine lazy jacks joined together in pairs under the boom and held in position fore and aft by a line running from the boom end main sheet eye to the - even tied around the mast. A little creative knot work. Mine are conventional. Start off near the spreaders and split in two half way down to eyes on the boom. If I was starting fresh I'd try for three legs at the boom. Even a new stiff sail can partially get away from two. Come to think of it, I can add a few legs using this method.-- Robert Lord obviously.cultivated.wrist
 
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halandcindy

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Nov 4, 2016
62
Yes Robert, I've seen examples of reef knots tied below the boom. But would a line between the legs that hang down? If set up right I'm not sure. Do you use rings to unite the lines or blocks?
 
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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
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Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Yes, I have a TP10 too.Very happy with it.--

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Vega1447

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Oct 19, 2019
921
Albin Vega 27 Limerick
Sorry Don.

I thought you were suggesting easing the main halyard to allow the
main sail to get slightly baggy. Which puzzled me.

Now I understand.

Sure, dropping the traveller and easing the main sheet is standard
procedure.

My bad for misunderstanding you...

John V1447 Breakaway

On 29/04/17 20:17, D Keenan
don_keenan@... [AlbinVega] wrote:
 
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