I just purchased my first yacht,a 28' lancer ( 1979 ).Have questions regarding the port and starboard stays: there are port and starboard chainplates with 2 holes each, but 3 stays on each side of mast.There are 2 lines running through the boom, outhaul and ?.thanx....sentientpat@hotmail.com
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This is a good example of a post that needs PHOTOS. Hard to tell exactly what you mean from your post.
I'd highly recommend you get a flickr.com or photobucket.com account and post photos there and link to them here.
BTW, strongly suggest not posting your e-mail in machine readable format or you'll likely start getting a lot of spam. Post it in the form of xxxxxxxx { a t } yyyyyy dot com or something similar.
This is a good example of a post that needs PHOTOS. Hard to tell exactly what you mean from your post.
I'd highly recommend you get a flickr.com or photobucket.com account and post photos there and link to them here.
BTW, strongly suggest not posting your e-mail in machine readable format or you'll likely start getting a lot of spam. Post it in the form of xxxxxxxx { a t } yyyyyy dot com or something similar.
I second Dog's request.
In the mean time, 3 shrouds, chainplates with 2 holes? Where is the 3rd shroud attached? Or is the mast not yet stepped? I found some photos on Yacht World of an '82 and it appears as the the Lancer 28 has a single upper and lower shroud each side. Are you sure you are not also counting the head and back stays? I do nto think this boat was ever rigged with running back stays but it is possible.
As for the boom, these could be a combination of outhaul and/or reefing lines. Again photos would be nice.
In the mean time, 3 shrouds, chainplates with 2 holes? Where is the 3rd shroud attached? Or is the mast not yet stepped? I found some photos on Yacht World of an '82 and it appears as the the Lancer 28 has a single upper and lower shroud each side. Are you sure you are not also counting the head and back stays? I do nto think this boat was ever rigged with running back stays but it is possible.
As for the boom, these could be a combination of outhaul and/or reefing lines. Again photos would be nice.
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Looking at the sail would help with figuring out what the lines coming out the boom are. If you only have one set of reefing points, chances are pretty good that you've got an outhaul and the tack-reefing-cringle reefing line for the single reef. If you have two reefs, then you're probably missing a line. 
If the boom has three or four sheaves, the reefing lines are usually the outer ones, with the outhaul being in the middle or one of the two inner ones—so it lines up better with the foot of the sail.
If the boom has three or four sheaves, the reefing lines are usually the outer ones, with the outhaul being in the middle or one of the two inner ones—so it lines up better with the foot of the sail.RE: Lancer rigging
Looking at a picture of the Lancer 28 it appears that it has three shrouds, One of the lower shrouds going to the forward attachment point and the upper and one lower shroud going to the rear attachment point. Ray T
Looking at a picture of the Lancer 28 it appears that it has three shrouds, One of the lower shrouds going to the forward attachment point and the upper and one lower shroud going to the rear attachment point. Ray T
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All I see in this photo of the Lancer 28 is one lower and one upper, each with a pvc roller around them about even with the mast on each side... .where is the other lower??
All I see in this photo of the Lancer 28 is one lower and one upper, each with a pvc roller around them about even with the mast on each side... .where is the other lower??
Ok Ray, I am with Dog on this one. I have been drinking tonight and I still cannot see more than 1 upper and 1 lower.
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Sailing Dog, I looked on the web for pictures of a Lancer 28 and found one with three shrouds on each side. I am unable to find it again, how infuriating. However Sentienpat says he has 3 shrouds on each side so what do you do with them? The 2 lower shrouds would go fore and aft and the upper should go in the anchor point that gives the straightest line from the chainplate through the spreader to the top of the mast. Ray T
Sailing Dog, I looked on the web for pictures of a Lancer 28 and found one with three shrouds on each side. I am unable to find it again, how infuriating. However Sentienpat says he has 3 shrouds on each side so what do you do with them? The 2 lower shrouds would go fore and aft and the upper should go in the anchor point that gives the straightest line from the chainplate through the spreader to the top of the mast. Ray T
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On further research sailboat listings.com has a 1979 lancer 28 with 3 shrouds on each side but has three separate mountings on the chain plate. This may mean that Lancer made changes during production. Its happened before. The Lancer that I saw was in Atlanta for $7900 Ray T
On further research sailboat listings.com has a 1979 lancer 28 with 3 shrouds on each side but has three separate mountings on the chain plate. This may mean that Lancer made changes during production. Its happened before. The Lancer that I saw was in Atlanta for $7900 Ray T
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It is very possible that they changed the shroud setup and that the OP could have a mast from a later Lancer on an older boat or vice versa... which would explain the shroud/chainplate mismatch.
It is very possible that they changed the shroud setup and that the OP could have a mast from a later Lancer on an older boat or vice versa... which would explain the shroud/chainplate mismatch.
Either way if there is a chainplate with 2 holes it is likely setup for a 2 shroud rig as they would both need to be in line with the mast. If there are 3 shrouds then their should be 3 seperate chainplates as the fore and aft lowers cannot be in line with the upper that is in line with the mast.
Based on the option sheet for my previous boat, an 82 L25 (I believe the rig is identical or close to the L28), there was an option for a heavier duty rig with two lowers instead of one. Go to www.lancerowners.com, which Phil has up, but not listed under "brand specific forums" for some reason. Look under the 28 for the knowledgebase and you will find the manual (which is almost laughable). There also used to be a .pdf showing the reefing system, either under the 25 or the 28, that was very helpful. Perhaps BrianD has a copy, as I believe he was moderating that site for a while. I may have a copy at work still and will look for you. Rigrite.com sells Kenyon parts if you need them. I am assuming you have a Kenyon spar, as I did.
The boom likely has three sheaves in the end. One is the outhaul (the middle) and the other two are for the first and second reefs. The outhaul on my old boat secured on a cleat on the bottom of the boom about a third of the way back from the mast.
The reefing lines probably (according to my old boat) are supposed to run up diagonally and through the reefing cringle (grommet) then down perpendicular to the mast where they pass through a stainless loop mounted on the mast. Termination is by simply tying a stopper knot in the line. Warning...don't accidentally pull one of the lines inside the boom...you will regret it.
The boom likely has three sheaves in the end. One is the outhaul (the middle) and the other two are for the first and second reefs. The outhaul on my old boat secured on a cleat on the bottom of the boom about a third of the way back from the mast.
The reefing lines probably (according to my old boat) are supposed to run up diagonally and through the reefing cringle (grommet) then down perpendicular to the mast where they pass through a stainless loop mounted on the mast. Termination is by simply tying a stopper knot in the line. Warning...don't accidentally pull one of the lines inside the boom...you will regret it.
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