Lancer 25 a good choice over others of its class?

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Oct 27, 2011
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Tartan 27 Yawl New Bedford/Fairhaven
I have seen one local to me for cheap but unsure of the boat itself...I will probably get skewed responses since I am asking Lancer owners afterall but I like the lines of it and it has a full keel which I think it makes it more stable than other of its size...The other popular options in 25 being the O'Day and the Catalina...

Been also considering a Tartan 27 local to me that needs work to it's deck & rails (wood is all beat up on rails)but is pretty much ready to sail as well (engine, sails, electrical)

I like the modern looks of it although it is an older 70's boat...I know there is one guy on here Don that has said plenty about his and loves it but just wondering what you thought as a first boat for my wife and I (31 & 28).

We want to have occasional guests as well...Obviously, we know it won't fit 10 as that is not very smart to try anyways...

Just looking for something good to start with that will be manageable (trailerable)
 
Oct 24, 2011
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Lancer 28 Grand Lake
I have just aquired a lancer 28, its just as bad as any other boat, unless you have money to spend on a pacific sea craft, a southern cross, or a halberg rassy. You get what you pay for, the lancer i have, has a keel i dont like, which is a fiberglass keel, filled with ballast, it has no reinforcing under any of the deck fittings, the forward hatch in the coach roof is a joke, it is held closed with one little hook, the companion way is way too big, (but some people like that) their is berths for what is claimed seven people, but their is no way, two adults can sleep in the forward v berth, one small adult would be all, with the table down, it has five six foot berths, which is way too much for a boat that size, and the result is, a lot of lost storage space. No nav station, no chart table, more a sort of floating trailer, my wife likes it though, but she isnt planning on any sailing, she is planning to stay at a marina, and invite friends down, so i guess it suits her. A lot of the components, are very good, well made, but just slapped on. The freshwater tank is only fifteen gallons, smallest of any boat i have ever owned. the hull and deck seem quite solid, though i have heard other people say this is not the case. I have stripped mine, taken the toe rails off, i am going to glass the hull deck joint, (would recomend that on just about any production boat) I am going to re bed all the fittings, replace the bulkheads. Their are no proper chain plates for the stayes, just a plate under the deck, that holds another plate that passes through the deck, onto which the stays are secured, i reckon if i sailed it hard enough, i could break that plate through the deck and lose the rig. I am replacing the hull deck self tapping screws with bolts, which with that and glassing the hull deck joint, and re bedding the deck fittings and toe rails, should get rid of all the leaks, the pulling of the deck by the mast transfering weight through the stays, loosens the hull deck seal, and you get water in.

I swapped a porsch i had for mine, i am quite happy with it, as i knew what i was getting when i got it, the previous owner had spent money on her, but he didnt do work, I dont have to spend a lot of money, i just have to do work, he put a new rig on her, new sails, new and very expensive covers on all the cushions, new foam, new stove, new toilet,new liner in the the cabin, but he didnt bother stopping the rot, so the nice boat he had is now stripped.

Will take me to about april to finish her, upgrade the electrical, probably cost 400, (solar panel double the batteries etc) glassing the hull deck and bedding in all deck fittings, probably, 200, bulheads, could be about 400, depending on whether i use marine ply or exterior. re painting the hull after the crap job he did, maybe 200, but i will spray that myself. I willl use the old marine ply from the bulkheads to re-enforce the fittings, probably use several gallons of fiberglass resin, and forty dollars a gallon, even the original hatch covers, under the cushions, handnt been seriously protected from moisture, i took those out, sanded them,and varnished them, maybe half hours work per hatch cover, the ones i have to replace due to rot, maybe an hour per hatch cover.

I am happy with the boat, lot of good sturdy components, but looks like they gave all these components to one man, and said "build it as fast as you can" Like i say, only thing i dont like is the keel, and that is because, i dont understand it.
 

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May 12, 2011
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Lancer 25 Charlotte, NC
Hello Southcoasting,

I acquired a trailerable 1976 Lancer 25 in June. I am new to sailing having learned to sail last summer in Florida. I have really enjoyed reburbishing my Lancer and learning to sail her. I am unable to compare her with other boats of comparable size, however, I love my Lancer.

Last weekend, on a local lake we overtook a Catalina 25! While the Catalina, due to her deeper draft, was able to point a little higher on a close hauled, we were still faster.

I agree with the previous posting that the chainplates are a weak point. I have plans to strenghten mine next spring. Rudder could be a little larger to improve handling when slow. Launching and recovering are easy with this boat. My son and I are able to step the mast and be ready to launch in less than 30 minutes.

Overall, I'm very happy with my Lancer 25, probably because my standards are so low, but I don't know the difference! Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
 
Nov 9, 2008
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Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
I think I'm that "Don" so I won't go on too much but I'll answer a couple of observations and add a concern or two.

1) Weak chain plates. The boats are 35 years old and have yet to pull through in all sorts of weather. Don't worry about it. Inspect your rigging though.

2) One little hook to hold my forward hatch down . . . has proven MORE than enough to do the job.

3) Your Lancer WILL sleep 5. I know. It's close quarters but everybody will be gently rocked to sleep while reclined on a cushion.

4) Your Lancer may leak some. Mine does and it drives my lovely bride nuts. This spring I'll rebed my rails and hardware and all will be fine.

5) She's as fast as any other boat in her class. I've been to 6 1/2 knots, hull speed.

6) She doesn't point as well as deeper keel boats, but she gets closer to the beach and on to the trailer just fine.

7) I hope you aren't a big guy because the head needs quite a bit of docking finesse to complete the paper work.

8) She is a great starter boat and if we had picked another, more ungainly boat, our sailing days would have ended in divorce, shortly after registering the trailer.

9) If you'll trailer her often, install a Johnson lever in the stay that you detach to step. $35 well spent.

10) Get out there and sail like crazy. Keep in mind that the cockpit is a perfect place for passion; either for sailing or . . . . a little thing that I call "Merlot time".

Don

Maine
 
Nov 26, 2007
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Lancer 25 SoCal
Good evening Southcoasting. Good Old Boat reviewed the original Lancer 25 in their January/February 2011 edition and I posted a review that included the Mark IV & Mark V, which can be found at this following link.

http://forums.lancer.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=777787&highlight=steve22116

One of the features I most enjoy with the Lancer is having "standing" head room in a 25' boat. Yes, the keel is wider that required but I do like being able to stand up while dressing. Also, I've posted many of my completed tasks on this forum and you can search for author steve22116 to get additional ideas. Steve
 
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