may be old news to most but the LV Cup races are carried live and in replay throughout the day on Versus channel
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may be old news to most but the LV Cup races are carried live and in replay throughout the day on Versus channel
It has been exciting this week Tuesday for sure!
I have enjoyed it for 3 days and it really is exciting to see and learn from the Pros.
I have enjoyed it for 3 days and it really is exciting to see and learn from the Pros.
It has been exciting this week Tuesday for sure!
I have enjoyed it for 3 days and it really is exciting to see and learn from the Pros.
I have enjoyed it for 3 days and it really is exciting to see and learn from the Pros.
Think we can?
Anyone think we can pull this off this year? Last time, Prada (Italy) pretty much dominated us and it seem to be following suit this year, as well. I realize its early and we're only down 1 race, but even if we get the LV Cup, I have my doubts that we can win the AC.
Anyone think we can pull this off this year? Last time, Prada (Italy) pretty much dominated us and it seem to be following suit this year, as well. I realize its early and we're only down 1 race, but even if we get the LV Cup, I have my doubts that we can win the AC.
Think we can?
Anyone think we can pull this off this year? Last time, Prada (Italy) pretty much dominated us and it seem to be following suit this year, as well. I realize its early and we're only down 1 race, but even if we get the LV Cup, I have my doubts that we can win the AC.
Anyone think we can pull this off this year? Last time, Prada (Italy) pretty much dominated us and it seem to be following suit this year, as well. I realize its early and we're only down 1 race, but even if we get the LV Cup, I have my doubts that we can win the AC.
Fascinating racing, frustrating coverage
Watching a helicopter view of 2 boats in the starting box without being able to tell where the starting line might be is somewhat akin to watching a closeup of a golf ball rolling across a green without knowing where the hole is. Likewise those stunning views showing the bows of both boats plunging through the 6" chop, looking like they are a few feet apart and dashing neck and neck..... until we find out that the boats are a quarter-mile from each other and one has a 300 yard lead on the other. Nice camera work, but pretty useless when you're trying to follow a race. The animation technology - when they bother to show it - is absolutely AWESOME! The problem is that they use it so rarely that it becomes impossible to have any meaningful continuity. So here's a suggestion for the VS folks: ALWAYS use split-screen. Put the animation on the left half - let us see where the boats are in relation to the course and each other - and the rest of the visuals on the right side. That way, all us sailors who are anal about knowing EXACTLY where we are at all times won't suffer disorientation, nausea, vomiting.... seasickness! And one other suggestion - the 'live' aspect is nice, I suppose, but why not cover the races one after the other? I KNOW they are going on at the same time, but who really CARES? They obviously have two separate camera crews, so just show the first one to completion and THEN pick up the start of the second. As for the racing, it's awesome! BMW Oracle seems to be coming up lacking, but I'm not sure why. It looks to me that the two major factors in determining the outcome are: a) pre-start maneuvering and b) finding the best wind shifts on the course. Luna Rossa is winning both of those. I was also interested to hear yesterday that BMW Oracle had made some hull modification (speculation is that it was a keel wing change) between race 2 and 3. Pretty obviously they were looking for more up-wind speed, but the result was equally obvious: they took off enough down-wind speed to keep them from winning the way they did in race 2, but didn't go any faster up-wind. From my lofty position of total ignorance
that seems like a bad decision. That boat was a rocket sled on the down-wind legs. Cheers, Bob s/y X SAIL R 8
Watching a helicopter view of 2 boats in the starting box without being able to tell where the starting line might be is somewhat akin to watching a closeup of a golf ball rolling across a green without knowing where the hole is. Likewise those stunning views showing the bows of both boats plunging through the 6" chop, looking like they are a few feet apart and dashing neck and neck..... until we find out that the boats are a quarter-mile from each other and one has a 300 yard lead on the other. Nice camera work, but pretty useless when you're trying to follow a race. The animation technology - when they bother to show it - is absolutely AWESOME! The problem is that they use it so rarely that it becomes impossible to have any meaningful continuity. So here's a suggestion for the VS folks: ALWAYS use split-screen. Put the animation on the left half - let us see where the boats are in relation to the course and each other - and the rest of the visuals on the right side. That way, all us sailors who are anal about knowing EXACTLY where we are at all times won't suffer disorientation, nausea, vomiting.... seasickness! And one other suggestion - the 'live' aspect is nice, I suppose, but why not cover the races one after the other? I KNOW they are going on at the same time, but who really CARES? They obviously have two separate camera crews, so just show the first one to completion and THEN pick up the start of the second. As for the racing, it's awesome! BMW Oracle seems to be coming up lacking, but I'm not sure why. It looks to me that the two major factors in determining the outcome are: a) pre-start maneuvering and b) finding the best wind shifts on the course. Luna Rossa is winning both of those. I was also interested to hear yesterday that BMW Oracle had made some hull modification (speculation is that it was a keel wing change) between race 2 and 3. Pretty obviously they were looking for more up-wind speed, but the result was equally obvious: they took off enough down-wind speed to keep them from winning the way they did in race 2, but didn't go any faster up-wind. From my lofty position of total ignorance
that seems like a bad decision. That boat was a rocket sled on the down-wind legs. Cheers, Bob s/y X SAIL R 8Fascinating racing, frustrating coverage
Watching a helicopter view of 2 boats in the starting box without being able to tell where the starting line might be is somewhat akin to watching a closeup of a golf ball rolling across a green without knowing where the hole is. Likewise those stunning views showing the bows of both boats plunging through the 6" chop, looking like they are a few feet apart and dashing neck and neck..... until we find out that the boats are a quarter-mile from each other and one has a 300 yard lead on the other. Nice camera work, but pretty useless when you're trying to follow a race. The animation technology - when they bother to show it - is absolutely AWESOME! The problem is that they use it so rarely that it becomes impossible to have any meaningful continuity. So here's a suggestion for the VS folks: ALWAYS use split-screen. Put the animation on the left half - let us see where the boats are in relation to the course and each other - and the rest of the visuals on the right side. That way, all us sailors who are anal about knowing EXACTLY where we are at all times won't suffer disorientation, nausea, vomiting.... seasickness! And one other suggestion - the 'live' aspect is nice, I suppose, but why not cover the races one after the other? I KNOW they are going on at the same time, but who really CARES? They obviously have two separate camera crews, so just show the first one to completion and THEN pick up the start of the second. As for the racing, it's awesome! BMW Oracle seems to be coming up lacking, but I'm not sure why. It looks to me that the two major factors in determining the outcome are: a) pre-start maneuvering and b) finding the best wind shifts on the course. Luna Rossa is winning both of those. I was also interested to hear yesterday that BMW Oracle had made some hull modification (speculation is that it was a keel wing change) between race 2 and 3. Pretty obviously they were looking for more up-wind speed, but the result was equally obvious: they took off enough down-wind speed to keep them from winning the way they did in race 2, but didn't go any faster up-wind. From my lofty position of total ignorance that seems like a bad decision. That boat was a rocket sled on the down-wind legs. Cheers, Bob s/y X SAIL R 8
Watching a helicopter view of 2 boats in the starting box without being able to tell where the starting line might be is somewhat akin to watching a closeup of a golf ball rolling across a green without knowing where the hole is. Likewise those stunning views showing the bows of both boats plunging through the 6" chop, looking like they are a few feet apart and dashing neck and neck..... until we find out that the boats are a quarter-mile from each other and one has a 300 yard lead on the other. Nice camera work, but pretty useless when you're trying to follow a race. The animation technology - when they bother to show it - is absolutely AWESOME! The problem is that they use it so rarely that it becomes impossible to have any meaningful continuity. So here's a suggestion for the VS folks: ALWAYS use split-screen. Put the animation on the left half - let us see where the boats are in relation to the course and each other - and the rest of the visuals on the right side. That way, all us sailors who are anal about knowing EXACTLY where we are at all times won't suffer disorientation, nausea, vomiting.... seasickness! And one other suggestion - the 'live' aspect is nice, I suppose, but why not cover the races one after the other? I KNOW they are going on at the same time, but who really CARES? They obviously have two separate camera crews, so just show the first one to completion and THEN pick up the start of the second. As for the racing, it's awesome! BMW Oracle seems to be coming up lacking, but I'm not sure why. It looks to me that the two major factors in determining the outcome are: a) pre-start maneuvering and b) finding the best wind shifts on the course. Luna Rossa is winning both of those. I was also interested to hear yesterday that BMW Oracle had made some hull modification (speculation is that it was a keel wing change) between race 2 and 3. Pretty obviously they were looking for more up-wind speed, but the result was equally obvious: they took off enough down-wind speed to keep them from winning the way they did in race 2, but didn't go any faster up-wind. From my lofty position of total ignorance
that seems like a bad decision. That boat was a rocket sled on the down-wind legs. Cheers, Bob s/y X SAIL R 8
Valencia is not the best, BUT.......
William, I know I too am disappointed that we have not been able to see an AC match hre and more specifically in Newport. That being said, Valencia, which is not a sailing capitol by any means, has done a good job at hosting the LVC matches. And aside from the 1st round robin matches where there was little wind, the semi's have had a 10-15 kts. steady sea breeze (which Valencia is known for) for all 3 semi-final matches. What is Newport like in June/July??? Its the dead freaking sea most of the time with only (usually) lighter sea breeze filling in around 2-3 pm
William, I know I too am disappointed that we have not been able to see an AC match hre and more specifically in Newport. That being said, Valencia, which is not a sailing capitol by any means, has done a good job at hosting the LVC matches. And aside from the 1st round robin matches where there was little wind, the semi's have had a 10-15 kts. steady sea breeze (which Valencia is known for) for all 3 semi-final matches. What is Newport like in June/July??? Its the dead freaking sea most of the time with only (usually) lighter sea breeze filling in around 2-3 pm
Valencia is not the best, BUT.......
William, I know I too am disappointed that we have not been able to see an AC match hre and more specifically in Newport. That being said, Valencia, which is not a sailing capitol by any means, has done a good job at hosting the LVC matches. And aside from the 1st round robin matches where there was little wind, the semi's have had a 10-15 kts. steady sea breeze (which Valencia is known for) for all 3 semi-final matches. What is Newport like in June/July??? Its the dead freaking sea most of the time with only (usually) lighter sea breeze filling in around 2-3 pm
William, I know I too am disappointed that we have not been able to see an AC match hre and more specifically in Newport. That being said, Valencia, which is not a sailing capitol by any means, has done a good job at hosting the LVC matches. And aside from the 1st round robin matches where there was little wind, the semi's have had a 10-15 kts. steady sea breeze (which Valencia is known for) for all 3 semi-final matches. What is Newport like in June/July??? Its the dead freaking sea most of the time with only (usually) lighter sea breeze filling in around 2-3 pm
The Ultimate AC Viewer's Guide
I am so far into this AC thing it is scary. Here is my system: 1. Dish Network with Versus 2. Americascupanywhere internet subscription (it's a bit cranky) but great with a very good commentary. 3. Sony TIVO with timed DVD copying ability. Each morning at 6am I start up 1. and 2. and wander across the room between the two with both volumes up. Then go to work a bit later, at the end. I then watch re-runs sometimes in the evening off the TIVO. The professional counselling is helping. Go Kiwis go!!
I am so far into this AC thing it is scary. Here is my system: 1. Dish Network with Versus 2. Americascupanywhere internet subscription (it's a bit cranky) but great with a very good commentary. 3. Sony TIVO with timed DVD copying ability. Each morning at 6am I start up 1. and 2. and wander across the room between the two with both volumes up. Then go to work a bit later, at the end. I then watch re-runs sometimes in the evening off the TIVO. The professional counselling is helping. Go Kiwis go!!
The Ultimate AC Viewer's Guide
I am so far into this AC thing it is scary. Here is my system: 1. Dish Network with Versus 2. Americascupanywhere internet subscription (it's a bit cranky) but great with a very good commentary. 3. Sony TIVO with timed DVD copying ability. Each morning at 6am I start up 1. and 2. and wander across the room between the two with both volumes up. Then go to work a bit later, at the end. I then watch re-runs sometimes in the evening off the TIVO. The professional counselling is helping. Go Kiwis go!!
I am so far into this AC thing it is scary. Here is my system: 1. Dish Network with Versus 2. Americascupanywhere internet subscription (it's a bit cranky) but great with a very good commentary. 3. Sony TIVO with timed DVD copying ability. Each morning at 6am I start up 1. and 2. and wander across the room between the two with both volumes up. Then go to work a bit later, at the end. I then watch re-runs sometimes in the evening off the TIVO. The professional counselling is helping. Go Kiwis go!!
Is it just me, or
does anybody else dislike the international boat crews...I know good sailing is still great stuff and awesome to see; but I remember when Americans helmed American boats (like Dennis Conner!).
does anybody else dislike the international boat crews...I know good sailing is still great stuff and awesome to see; but I remember when Americans helmed American boats (like Dennis Conner!).
Is it just me, or
does anybody else dislike the international boat crews...I know good sailing is still great stuff and awesome to see; but I remember when Americans helmed American boats (like Dennis Conner!).
does anybody else dislike the international boat crews...I know good sailing is still great stuff and awesome to see; but I remember when Americans helmed American boats (like Dennis Conner!).
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