I wrote to ask Phil about this on the "Site Talk" board and he restored the posts. He was not sure why they went 'poof'. Apologies to Bilbo if he intended them to be deleted.
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Keel position at dock or mooring
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No, most all of these were trunk sides as was the C-22, not from the cable snapping. We did repair an O'day Mariner that the cable snapped on and punctured a pin hole in the fore edge of the CB trunk, but most all repairs were to CB trunk sides not the leading edge of the trunk. In almost all cases the boats had sunk as a result of damage. In a few instances owners caught it as a small weep first but most found their boats on the bottom. If you have a CB boat periodic inspection of the cable and replacement is a good practices because these can fail too.. If you think it wobbles like crazy up you should should see what this can do with a 5' lever point loading the trunk to only the width of the CB, rather than along its entire raised length.. I have physically watched and listened to CB slam on certain boats and watched as the trunk flexed near the pin.
As I said before you guys can do what you want. Having worked in a yard that did a lot of these repairs when owners left the CB's down. I know my protocol for CB boats and just wanted to share my reasoning and experience.
Beyond all my own recommendations Catalina has always recommended raising the swing keel after a day of sailing, IIRC, and at least monthly cable inspections. Their advice included wording about getting the stainless cable OUT of the water so it can last longer. The biggest problem I have seen with the C-22 on the ocean is the dissimilar metals in the CB mechanism, steel, brass, bronze and stainless to name a few.
Maine Sail,
Your dead on, on saltwater. I've see one keel where the pin literally dissolved it's way through the keel, the keel then fell off the boat.
My old boat stayed in a slip for twenty years, keel down all the time, never had a problem it still has a solid keel and the pinhole looks like a new keel. It did however have both -0- movement hanger brackets and the alignment pads added to the front sides of the keel to keep it centered and movement free.
Not sure if it's still there, but at one time Catalina advised not to moor the C22 swing keel in salt water. You are once again dead on the mixture of metals.
Then there is that issue of two boats side by side, one will have no trouble while the other has lots.
Like you, I've seen much damage on the boats. I changed the cable every two years, most of the old cables looked new when removed. But they just don't cost that much, and good preventive maintenance is always a good habit.
A better choice for those mooring in saltwater might be to consider a wing.
I appreciate your posting and hope you will continue to chime in on this forum, nothing beats real time experience. I tell new owners all the time, nothing beats "tiller time"
Your dead on, on saltwater. I've see one keel where the pin literally dissolved it's way through the keel, the keel then fell off the boat.
My old boat stayed in a slip for twenty years, keel down all the time, never had a problem it still has a solid keel and the pinhole looks like a new keel. It did however have both -0- movement hanger brackets and the alignment pads added to the front sides of the keel to keep it centered and movement free.
Not sure if it's still there, but at one time Catalina advised not to moor the C22 swing keel in salt water. You are once again dead on the mixture of metals.
Then there is that issue of two boats side by side, one will have no trouble while the other has lots.
Like you, I've seen much damage on the boats. I changed the cable every two years, most of the old cables looked new when removed. But they just don't cost that much, and good preventive maintenance is always a good habit.
A better choice for those mooring in saltwater might be to consider a wing.
I appreciate your posting and hope you will continue to chime in on this forum, nothing beats real time experience. I tell new owners all the time, nothing beats "tiller time"
Anyone know why he removed them? We restored them, per request, but the vanished again..
When I first saw it - I thought that it must be a software glitch - or even - gasp - a moderator error. If I had known that is was the poster's wishes - I would never have asked regarding it. My apologies
to Bilbo, who seems to have wanted the deletions. It is a shame to lose valuable perspectives.OC
I am going to continue to leave my keel down. I am too afraid of the consequences should the cable break. Having the cable under constant tension means that it is rubbing the turning ball and at risk of wear. My dock is deep enough that the keel won't hit bottom.
Whenever the cable is in tension, there IS tension, and not only in the wire...
JMHO,
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Whenever the cable is in tension, there IS tension, and not only in the wire...
JMHO,
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