Just bought a 95 h26 hasn't sailed in 2 years help.

[Rudds67]

As the title implies . Boat has been sitting for 2 years everything was properly winterized. The a mast and all the rigging was taking off... somebody cut the wires that was going to the outboard...
Question is with the rigging Mainstays placement on top deck.. what does the lady Jack system look like I think there's cables here but they y got hit by a weed wacker..
Also Mast raising information I have all the polls and everything and then poll with the 2 cables at one end.what is it used for ?I'm confused.. I have the owner's manual PDF but I still can't get any good description on location and placement of the wires and cables,lines.
I can take more photos this evening.. everything's in boxes. the girl that sold this boat what kind of a distressed boat owner with her husband very ill didn't know much about the boat has been sitting...
My experience and sailing in 15 years Hobie cats and O'Day 22s this a little bit bigger boat... also there seems to be some sort of water heater system in the back bay e by the battery well was that stock?

 

[whatfiero]

Attach mast to hinge install crutch in rear cockpit spread all rigging out in parking lot port and starboard should be same lengths head stay longer I used hub haylard thru bow roller to pull mast up then install pin in head stay

 

[Fred]

Congratulations on the purchase of your new boat!

(perhaps I should capitalize the remainder of this post for added emphasis!!!)
Do not attempt to raise mast before you know all standing rigging is in good condition and you have "baby stays" attached to prevent mast from being blown off center and possibly damaging mast or mast step (or worse)!

 

[Fred]

I would take this in stages and concentrate on the standing rigging and mast raising. The lazy jacks are not standardized on these boats and are not essential to sailing the boat.

Note that there has been much previous discussion on this subject however on my boat (H26, 1996) the lower shrouds are attached to the forward most U-bolt and the upper shroud is connected to the aft most U-bolt on the side of the cabin.

 

[isaksp00]

I would guess the pole with a pair of (short?) cables at one end is the gin pole, used only to raise or lower the mast, and not while sailing. It should be described in the manual.

 

[Rudds67]

Fred that helps.a lot questions. what about the two rear u-bolts in the back of the boat they use for anything? Also the Jib Fuller is not connected to any sails ..currently how does the jib connect to the actual fuller system.does it just roll up in the travelers? Also what are the lines coming from the upper boom that seem to go into the mast..I'll take some pics shortly..

So this boat has no rear Mainstays? And you pull the mast up from the jib system?
Steve

 

[Rudds67]

Attach mast to hinge install crutch in rear cockpit spread all rigging out in parking lot port and starboard should be same lengths head stay longer I used hub haylard thru bow roller to pull mast up then install pin in head stay

Okay this makes sense to questions what is the crutch in the rear cockpit?

And what is the Hublard and bow roller? Im familiar with sailing but not the actual terms. ..I need directions designed for a child..as this boat is leaps and bounds from my old oday 22...
Thanks
Steve

 

[justsomeguy]

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what is the crutch in the rear cockpit?

That which supports the mast off the transom.
As to the rest of your questions, you've gotta allow for spelling and auto-correct.

 

[Rudds67]

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That which supports the mast off the transom.
As to the rest of your questions, you've gotta allow for spelling and auo-correct.

How do u use that to raise mast..where is it?

 

[justsomeguy]

How do u use that to raise mast..where is it?

It's a support that holds the mast as high as possible before raising the mast. It's located as far aft as possible.

 

[John23883]

Fred that helps.a lot questions. what about the two rear u-bolts in the back of the boat they use for anything? Also the Jib Fuller is not connected to any sails ..currently how does the jib connect to the actual fuller system.does it just roll up in the travelers? Also what are the lines coming from the upper boom that seem to go into the mast..I'll take some pics shortly..

So this boat has no rear Mainstays? And you pull the mast up from the jib system?
Steve

1. The 2 rear U-bolts are where the safety lines attach if you don't have stern rail seats.
2. Depending on the type of jib furler, once the mast is raised the jib sail is slid up into the aluminum furler in one of the slots in the furler.
3. The lines in the boom are for: a. The reefing line for the back of the sail. b. The topping lift which is the line that is attached to the top of the mast and holds up the boom until you have the sail up. c. The outhaul which is the line that attaches to the back of the sail (the front is connected to the rams hook) that pulls the sail taut.
4. The is no backstay on this boat.
5. Yes, one end of the cable of the gin pole is attached to the mainsheet which is attached to the padeye (u-bolt) in the anchor locker in the bow. The jib halyard (the line that raises the jib sail) is attached to the other end of the cable. It is then inserted into the hole in the base of the mast. The jib halyard is then pulled until the gin pole is pulled out of level toward the back of the boat and then wrapped and cleated to the cleat ON THE MAST. DO NOT EVEN THINK OF RAISING THE MAST WITHOUT THE "MAST RAISING BRIDLE WIRES ATTACHED!!
6.Go here and download the manual. http://hunter.sailboatowners.com/dl/downloads.php?task=model&mid=15&model=26
7. Post questions to the "Hunter smaller boat" forum so more H26 owners will see it.
8. This is your mast cradle.
9. Ask more questions.

 

[John23883]

Here's how my mast sits on the boat for trailering

 

[Crazy Dave Condon]

RU

Feel free to contact me via forum email. I designed that mast raise system as a dealer for Hunter introducing that boat. You got a mess and not sure what you have, so you will need to go back to basics first. The rear crutch is a long aluminum pole that might be in the boat. See if you have it. In addition there should be two wires about 6 feet long that have pelican hooks on one end and on the other end either a t-ball or hook style fitting. There should also be a 5 foot aluminum pole that has a wire on one end looped on both sides so see if that is there too. Then take a few photos of the rigging specifically the turnbuckles on the shroud chain plates. Do you have roller furling. Ok that is enough for now so let me know and we can go from there. Might need to talk but if you want you can give me your phone number and location and I do not share that information with anyone including my wife.

 

[Rudds67]

John and dave,

Wow I just increased my knowledge base of this boat by tenfold... sorry for the spell check I'm on my smartphone..
So question, I don't think I see any Bridal support wires. Where do they attach to? And would they be left on the mast if they were to derig this boat.
Also this may seem like a stupid question but do you attach the jib after you raise the mast? Or all in one shot?
Steve

 

[isaksp00]

Hard to tell from your pictures, but if you have a roller furler, it almost certainly has the forestay wire running through the center of the metal (or maybe plastic, if a CDI brand) foils. Before you raise the mast, the upper end of that should be attached to the fitting on the front of the mast, probably just above the sheave (pulley) in the mast that would be used for the jib halyard. If the jib is already rolled onto the furler, it may be easier to remove it before you raise the mast. Then once you use the gin pole and sheet mechanism to lift the mast to vertical, you attach the lower end of that forestay to the chain plate fitting (most likely inside the bow anchor locker). If there are two such fittings (maybe u-bolts, maybe chain plates, I am not sure on your model) the stay would attach to the one closer to the front, or above the other one (because if you had a hanked-on jib, it would attach to the chain plate "lower" than, or inside, the one for the forestay). Then you use the halyard (which may be integral to the furler itself if you have a CDI) to raise the jib, sliding its bolt rope up the groove in the furler foil, and attach the lower end of the jib to the fitting on your furler. Make sure you attach the furler line and wind it onto the drum ("charging" it) before you raise the jib, and if your jib has a protective fabric on its leading edge make sure you wind the drum the proper way, so that when the line is pulled (thus unwinding it from the drum) to wind the jib around the furler foil the cover ends up on the outside of the rolled up sail.
Some people leave the jib rolled on the furler when they lower the mast; if yours is like that, you could choose to leave it on the furler and just hook up the forestay.

 

[Fred]

Especially for the first time, I would advise against attempting to raise the mast with the foresail installed in the furler. It simply makes things heavier and more cumbersome. I always remove the sail from the furler before lowering the mast. If there is any significant wind when raising the mast, try to park the trailer into the wind rather than have wind from the side. The mast has "holes" about five feet up from the bottom to receive the bridle wires (j-hooks). the other end (pelican hooks) attaches to a loop welded onto the nearest side stanchion. These wires prevent the mast from tilting to the side during the raising process, preventing damage to the mast step. Utmost care also needs to be taken that none of the shrouds or ropes get caught as the mast is raise, of particular concern are the turnbuckles at the side chain plates / U-bolts. These can easily be bent (and damaged) while raising the mast. Inspect the jib halyard carefully before using to raise the mast, it takes a lot of strain during the procedure.

 

[John23883]

Have you downloaded the manual? Here is the link: http://sbo.sailboatowners.com/downloads/Hunter_26_82584071.pdf
Page 24 shows the parts for mast raising. I do have a checklist written for mast raising:
Raising the H26 mast is pretty easy.

1. Pull the pivot pin from the mast base and set it next to the base.

2. Slide the mast back and insert the pin in the mast base.

3. ATTACH THE MAST BRIDLES!! I keep mine rolled up and in the anchor locker at all times so I can’t attach the main sheet without seeing the bridle wires. Did I mention, ATTACH THE MAST BRIDLES!!

4. Grab the upper and lower shrouds, lift them and lay them forward, check the lower shrouds where they attach to the mast, making sure the black rubber pieces are in place, lift up on the turn-buckles and lay them back as best you can, so they are ready to lift upward. THEY WILL BEND. Trust me on this.

5. Attach the main sheet to the padeye in the anchor locker.

6. Take the gin pole and attach the jib halyard to one attachment point on the gin pole.

7. Attach the main sheet to the other attachment point.

8. Lift the pole up and into the hole in the mast base.

9. Pull on the jib sheet until the gin pole is leaning 10 deg. to the stern. If you leave the pole vertical, you will cause the blocks (pulleys) on the main sheet to come together before the mast is fully raised. Then you will have to lower it, lean the pole back and do it again. But. Better to lower it and do it again than to try something dangerous or potentially damaging.

10. Lock the jib sheet on the cleat on the mast.

11. Do you have a jib furler? I have a 4” PVC pipe about 6 feet long that is cut in half length-wise and bolted together to form an “H” that I put on the deck and set the boom in while trailering. I set this on the foredeck aimed at the bow and set the furler in the one end. As I raise the mast, the furler slides forward in the pipe instead of bouncing on the deck.

12. Put your gloves on! Make sure you have shoes on.

13. Have your helper go to the bow for the first part of the mast lifting.

14. Have your helper sit on the deck with one or both feet braced in the anchor locker.

15. Stand in the back of the cockpit and lift the mast while having your helper pull the main sheet.

16. Step forward and lift again, then stand at the cockpit entrance for one last lift.

17. Switch with your partner if you want to do the lifting.

18. Once the mast is up a bit and you can stand and pull, but not so high as to bend the turn-buckles, walk back and watch the turn-buckles on your side of the boat. Adjust as necessary.

19. IF AT ANY TIME IT STARTS TO GET HARDER TO PULL AND NOT EASIER, SOMETHING IS CAUGHT.

20. Have your helper standing on the ground watching and guiding the turn-buckles on one side of the boat. You will watch the other side later. Having your helper on the ground on one side also prevents them from being hit by a falling mast!

21. Pull on the main sheet while watching turn-buckles until you can see they are vertical enough and cannot get bent.

22. Walk forward and grab your forestay/furler.

23. Have your helper climb the bow ladder and pull the pin for the forestay.

24. Hand your helper the forestay/furler. One last yank, or two, on the main sheet and have them insert the pin and circlip.

25. Take your foot, with your shoe on, and step on the main sheet at the cam cleat to unlock it.

26. Done!

27. PUT THE BRIDLE WIRES IN THE ANCHOR LOCKER.

 

[Crazy Dave Condon]

Spoke to the new owner who is a sailor. The first thing he needs to do is an inventory and I have asked photos of certain items to make sure they are safe to use. He found the mast crutch. He has roller furling with new sails never put on which he said were designed for a 260. I advised the sails are the same for either boat. He does not have the u shackle for attachment to the mast retaining pin. I also told him to invert the mast so it travels correctly on the boat. JO and Isaksp00 and Fred, I will ask for your help with this gentlemen so this fellow will be able to do this right the first time with our help. Ok with you

 

[Fred]

John... Your procedure is helpful. My main sheet is long enough so that I can feed the end back through the main halyard clutch and then use the starboard winch to raise the mast from the cockpit.

 

[isaksp00]

I sent a PM to the new owner. His boat shows a home port of Chadds Ford PA near where I live, but he may have just bought it there, as his profile shows him near Syracuse. If the boat is near Chadds Ford, I might be able to stop over and help.
Peter