I have an Oday 240, and do not have self-tailing jibsheet winches. My boat only has cleats just aft of the existing winches. While sailing, after taking turns on the winch, I usually wrap the jibsheet around the cleat to keep it secure. However, I usually am singlehanding, and don't like this arrangement. I am thinking of purchasing cam cleats to replace the regular cleats. Have any of you 240 owners come up with a workable solution to this? Thanks!
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camcleats work well...
I have them for both port and stbd winches, mounted vertically, straight below the winches. I use the "V" groove camcleats, not the roller bearing kind. No mechanical parts, easy to use, simple to release the lines. I recently tried using the standard cleats provided behind the winches, I don't want my 16 mo old to release a sheet or get caught in one. I don't know how you could singlehand this way very easily. (of course, every boat I've raced/sailed used the camcleats). Might be able to provide sketch or dig pics if needed.
I have them for both port and stbd winches, mounted vertically, straight below the winches. I use the "V" groove camcleats, not the roller bearing kind. No mechanical parts, easy to use, simple to release the lines. I recently tried using the standard cleats provided behind the winches, I don't want my 16 mo old to release a sheet or get caught in one. I don't know how you could singlehand this way very easily. (of course, every boat I've raced/sailed used the camcleats). Might be able to provide sketch or dig pics if needed.
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I use the clam cleats on my 23 and have liked them very much. Most of the guys that race the Lasers around here use them with good sucess. God Bless and good luck Brian
I use the clam cleats on my 23 and have liked them very much. Most of the guys that race the Lasers around here use them with good sucess. God Bless and good luck Brian
"V" groove camcleats
To Stan: I'm really interested in your solution of using the "V" groove camcleats mounted vertically below the winches. It's something I would never have thought of, and a simple one at that! A sketch or photo would be greatly appreciated. However,I am new to this forum, and just signed on with my question yesterday...not sure what the next step is, or how we exchange that info. Thanks, JimB.
To Stan: I'm really interested in your solution of using the "V" groove camcleats mounted vertically below the winches. It's something I would never have thought of, and a simple one at that! A sketch or photo would be greatly appreciated. However,I am new to this forum, and just signed on with my question yesterday...not sure what the next step is, or how we exchange that info. Thanks, JimB.
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just to clarify the lingo without knocking anyone
For the sake of clarity, this thread is using two terms, cam cleat and clam cleat, each of which cleats a sheet, in this case and point of discussion, behind a winch. (Excellent idea BTW!) The clam cleat has no moving parts. One writer referred to it as a V cleat. It also looks like a clam, hence (I think) the name. The line grabs when inserted in the reverse facing ribs that tend to narrow at the bottom of the cleat and closer to the load end of the cleat. The cam cleat on the other hand has moving parts, spring loaded cams which open slightly and unload when a line is pulled through them, but close and bind when loaded. The cam cleats tend to be a bit more expensive, but either would work in this case behind a winch. The attached picture shows the cam cleat. The web link shows a clam cleat mounted upside down on a mainsheet swivel block.
For the sake of clarity, this thread is using two terms, cam cleat and clam cleat, each of which cleats a sheet, in this case and point of discussion, behind a winch. (Excellent idea BTW!) The clam cleat has no moving parts. One writer referred to it as a V cleat. It also looks like a clam, hence (I think) the name. The line grabs when inserted in the reverse facing ribs that tend to narrow at the bottom of the cleat and closer to the load end of the cleat. The cam cleat on the other hand has moving parts, spring loaded cams which open slightly and unload when a line is pulled through them, but close and bind when loaded. The cam cleats tend to be a bit more expensive, but either would work in this case behind a winch. The attached picture shows the cam cleat. The web link shows a clam cleat mounted upside down on a mainsheet swivel block.
cam vs. clam
To Roger, I really do appreciate your clearing up the lingo on these cleats! Thanks, JimB.
To Roger, I really do appreciate your clearing up the lingo on these cleats! Thanks, JimB.
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