I have a 110% jib with the boat I purchased, as well as two 150% jennys. I will be using the boat on lake Ontario, and feel I should have another head sail. I see in the CD book that they have a 75% heavy weather sail, and a 50% storm jib. What do all of you think the better choise would be? Also one of the 150 jennys is a mylar sail. What conditions would this be used instead of the regular 150 ? What type of sails do most catalina 22 owners have in their inventory? Looking forward to all your imput. Dale
Jibs and other sails
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Hi, Just got our used 1987 that ceme with a 110 Jib (Factory) a lighter duty 150 Genoa and some kind of a modified foresail for adding in light air. This sail looks like a C-27 furling light weight jib/genoa that had the foot cut off and can be rigged up. For adding a sail, I would think in terms of either heavy weather sail that you mention but at this point and for my wife's sake, I wouldn't want to be caught in the weather that would require one. In higher winds and waves, I would probably start by dropping the jib, reefing the main and finally motoring to port.
How are the sail controls?
What is the status of your sail controls? That is: cunninghams for both the headsails and main a properly functioning main outhaul a backstay adjuster inboard tracks a mainsheet arrangement better than the original configuration If you are absent of any of these, install them first before adding to your sail inventory. A 110 and a 150 are pretty standard for C-22 inventory. The mylar 150 is for racing and probably should be used exclusively for that as it is very expensive. Keep in mind that having a large inventory of headsails for a C-22 gets a bit impractical if for no other reason than the storage issues. Hence, if you really want a pratical broad range of headsails, then a good reefing furler with a good 150 furling headsail with a foam luff is most likely a wiser route to take than having several headsails.
What is the status of your sail controls? That is: cunninghams for both the headsails and main a properly functioning main outhaul a backstay adjuster inboard tracks a mainsheet arrangement better than the original configuration If you are absent of any of these, install them first before adding to your sail inventory. A 110 and a 150 are pretty standard for C-22 inventory. The mylar 150 is for racing and probably should be used exclusively for that as it is very expensive. Keep in mind that having a large inventory of headsails for a C-22 gets a bit impractical if for no other reason than the storage issues. Hence, if you really want a pratical broad range of headsails, then a good reefing furler with a good 150 furling headsail with a foam luff is most likely a wiser route to take than having several headsails.
C22 small sails
Dale: For winds 20-25 +, I find the 75% headsail and a single reefed main rather nice. Headsail gives you lots of control. For really strong blows, where you just can't get into cover, the 50% is better, and its probably heavier material so less likely to rip. Once I used my 50% without the main after a forward shroud broke. Couldn't tack into wind, but could reach quite well in the strong wind that prevailed. So, the 50% is insurance, especially if you happen to have engine trouble. Dick
Dale: For winds 20-25 +, I find the 75% headsail and a single reefed main rather nice. Headsail gives you lots of control. For really strong blows, where you just can't get into cover, the 50% is better, and its probably heavier material so less likely to rip. Once I used my 50% without the main after a forward shroud broke. Couldn't tack into wind, but could reach quite well in the strong wind that prevailed. So, the 50% is insurance, especially if you happen to have engine trouble. Dick
Small Jibs
Paphman: We have a storm jib for our C-22. We don't use it too often on the Chesapeake, but when we do use it it is very good to have. It enables us to sail closer to the wind without the boat heeling too much, and the tiller pressure remains light, and the boat can be controlled very well. It works well with a reefed main, and restores the boats ability to point into the wind. This makes sense to me, if you think about it from an airflow point of view. The air can't flow very well around the mast, because C-22s don't have rotating masts. Also, with some of the sail area coming from the jib, and some from the main, the boat will sail balanced as it was designed to. The issue about having light tiller pressure is important, because in heavy winds I get concerned about breaking the tiller. The question that you asked about which smaller jib to buy first is a tough one. If you look at as an insurance question, that is, what would you do if you HAD to sail in really windy conditions, you would want to pick the smaller jib that you mentioned, a 50%. If you want to balance the boat and still keep moving fast, then the 75% may be a better choice. I can't answer the question, because I don't know anything about sailing on Lake Ontario. What I do know is that our storm jib has 37 square feet, and it probably should be bigger. I attached a link to one of my previous responses on this issue. You have gotten some good and varied answers to your question. I don't know anything about roller furling, which is one of the things that Bayard mentioned. But, I know that my wife said that in the future we will have roller furling on our next boat. For now, my wife and son change the jibs on our boat. The smaller jibs don't take up too much volume to store, plus they can be folded in their bags since they are't used too often, and this allows them to take up even less room. I hope this helps. Aldo
Paphman: We have a storm jib for our C-22. We don't use it too often on the Chesapeake, but when we do use it it is very good to have. It enables us to sail closer to the wind without the boat heeling too much, and the tiller pressure remains light, and the boat can be controlled very well. It works well with a reefed main, and restores the boats ability to point into the wind. This makes sense to me, if you think about it from an airflow point of view. The air can't flow very well around the mast, because C-22s don't have rotating masts. Also, with some of the sail area coming from the jib, and some from the main, the boat will sail balanced as it was designed to. The issue about having light tiller pressure is important, because in heavy winds I get concerned about breaking the tiller. The question that you asked about which smaller jib to buy first is a tough one. If you look at as an insurance question, that is, what would you do if you HAD to sail in really windy conditions, you would want to pick the smaller jib that you mentioned, a 50%. If you want to balance the boat and still keep moving fast, then the 75% may be a better choice. I can't answer the question, because I don't know anything about sailing on Lake Ontario. What I do know is that our storm jib has 37 square feet, and it probably should be bigger. I attached a link to one of my previous responses on this issue. You have gotten some good and varied answers to your question. I don't know anything about roller furling, which is one of the things that Bayard mentioned. But, I know that my wife said that in the future we will have roller furling on our next boat. For now, my wife and son change the jibs on our boat. The smaller jibs don't take up too much volume to store, plus they can be folded in their bags since they are't used too often, and this allows them to take up even less room. I hope this helps. Aldo
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Thanks to all who responded. I will have some thinking to do this winter. Thanks again. Dale
Thanks to all who responded. I will have some thinking to do this winter. Thanks again. Dale
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