Jib rigging for daysailer II

Jun 28, 2015
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Oday Daysailer II Maine
Hi,
I've got a 76 daysailer 2 that was set up with a cdi furler and a genoa. I'm trying to set it back up with a normal size jib. I can't seem to find any photos online that show the original set up. I'm assuming the jib halyard goes to a small block for raising and lowering the jib. I can see two holes where there might have been a padeye just under the (tang?). It was removed because of clearance issues with the furler(which just barely has room to spin as is) I ordered a new forestay and jib and halyard to realize I hadn't considered how the sail is raised and lowered. The real issue for me is , I'd like to put the furler on occasionally when the wind is light as the sail is just too big for heavier wind days, but a padeye would be in the way of the furler, can I mount it over the tang instead of under. I hope this makes since to someone out there...
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,952
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
You really can't switch back and forth between the original, stock setup and the CDI furler, unless you had 2 forestays and installed the one with hte furler on it when yo uwant to use that setup and then remove that and install the bare forestay to hank on hte class-legal-size original jib.

I suppose that idea would work (switching back and forth..... but it seems like a lot of work to me. The standard, orignal jib is more than large enough 99.9% of the time in my experience. I'd veiw hte furler as a good way to quickly douse the jib when sailing in stronger winds (but, I still prefer the original hank-on jib). If the eye-strap (don't need a padeye) would get in hte way of the furler, that means the furler is too long for the forestay. The furler needs to be short enough to allow sliding the extrusion up the forestay enough to allow adjustment of hte turnbuckle (after removing hte stainless-steel eyestrap that secures the "cup" that covers the drum and contains the bearing that allows rotation of the furling drum. Does your genoa reach all the way from the top of the furling drum to the top of the furler? If it doesn't, you should be able to shorten the plastic extrusion near the top of the furler and re-install hte top cap providing more clearance.

I currently have a 1979 DS II, but previously sailed a 1970 CAL 21 that had a CDI Furler, so I am familiar with the CDI setup. I'm trying to find any pictures (of my boat or someone elses) showing hte jib halyard block, but although I've got a lot of pics of my boat...... I can't find any of hte jib block. I'l lkeep looking!
 

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Jun 28, 2015
3
Oday Daysailer II Maine
Thanks Sunbird,
Yes I would remove the furler and install the new stay for a regular hank on jib. The furler/genoa is great and all but really way too much sail for me sailing alone and trying to reef it gives a strange sail shape. I was thinking I could reinstall a block above the tang so that if I wanted to swap the furler on one day it would be just pull the pin and swap stays. I trailer sail it anyway so I'm used to rigging it fast
It's funny , I almost bought a cal 21 last summer, I really was drawn to the boat but the strange centerboard setup ultimately turned me away... And the boat was rough, but I kept thinking it looked like a fast design
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,952
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
The CAL 21 is a pretty fast boat, although.... even with older sails on my DS II I could sometimes pass my Dad under the right conditions...... but it wasn't easy! The CAL 21 isn't actually a centerboard boat, she has a retractable keel and it is her best and worst feature. Best because for us, we kept her on a mooring all summer and the keel design allowed us to have a boat with a deep-fin keel (very stable) yet with the keel retracted she sat low enough on the cradle (we didn't use a trailer) to be able to get aboard with a short step-ladder (her deck was only a little further off the ground then a Day Sailer's). Once in the water we could lock the keel down, remove the winch and cable and insert a long plank into the keel slot to close most of it off (no water surging in hte empty slot!), another cover went over the opening in the cockpit sole and we now hade a "fixed-keel" boat for the season, the 4'3" draft keel down wasn't too hard to live with in our area (Buzzards Bay near Cape Cod) but did prevent us from having a mooring in the cove near our cottage (plenty of depth for a DS II though!).
For us the CAL 21 was GREAT and we owned her for 38 years. Had we kept her on a trailer during the sailing season........ that keel design would not have worked so well! The 15 minutes "trailer to sailing" that the brochure claimed was pure fantasy! I'd plan more like at least 1 hour, then another hour after sailing to haul out. The CAL 21 was introduced at the beginning of the trailer-sailer era, and I think CAL was trying to capture some of the market from the Venture 21 and perhaps the Catalina 22 (although the Cat 22 came out almost a year after the CAL) and they produced one of the best trailer trasportable family cruiser-racers in that size range....... but, the keel setup was too tedious for a short day-sail, would work out OK for launching hte boat for a week-long cruise in a different cruising area each time, or even for a weekend trip, but not for a casual day trip. Too many owners skipped the locking bolt and kept the winch cable attached without using the plug for the slot or the cover and that made sailing a wet-footed experience! The keel was not meant to be adjusted contantly like a centerboard (most swing-keel or retractable keel boats will somewhat allow that) and yet a lot of owners have tried to use the CAL 21 that way. The "danger" is that the pivot bolt area of the keel would wear out quicker with the keel not locked in place and a few owners have been glad their cable was permanently attached when the pivot area of the keel rusted out on them and the keel fell out of the boat (that locking bolt also served as "back-up" to the pivot bolt!). Our pivot ares actually rusted out twice, the first time wa were lucky and the circumstances meant the boat was hauled out before the keel fell out, second time the locking bolt was all that was holding the keel in when we hauled out (we actually had modified our locking bolt setup to allow it to shear off if we ever hit a rock while sailing after doing damage to the boat after hitting a rock HARD with the original setup that used a 5/8" bolt, we reworked things to substitute a 1/4" brass bolt and that was what prevented loss of the keel that second time!)

So, to make a long story short (TOO LATE!) as much as I am a BIG fan of hte CAL 21, she would not have been the best for your sailing needs. The keel is a great feature, but complicates easy trailering compared to a centerboard boat like the DS II. Better boats are the O'DAY Mariner (19') or the O'DAY 20 or 192 (both K/CB models).
 

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