my venture 21 has two forstays. both have blocks at the top the Genoa fits on the front one and the jib fits in the aft one. the jib is easy to figure out but ive never sailed with a genoa. its a 150% and when i run it up in my back yard it looks huge. my main concern is about tacking with the genoa up. the aft of the two forstays is right in the middle of the genoa when it is flying is there any trick to tacking with that genoa up or do you have to go forward and pull it through the slot? secondly (after im comfortable with each seperatly) is there any danger in flying both the jib and the genoa at the same time? thanks.
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Interesting question
Hi kjoe, I also have a mac 21 but only one forestay. Sorry but like yourself I am new to sailing anything with more than one sail. I will leave answering your question to the guys that know, but I also have a jib and a genoa but have never raised the genoa yet. (I'm still working on properly setting the jib) But I'm curious how your rigging is set up and if it would be benificial to run another forestay so I can use both. Can you post a picture? Maybe someone can answere both our questions.
Hi kjoe, I also have a mac 21 but only one forestay. Sorry but like yourself I am new to sailing anything with more than one sail. I will leave answering your question to the guys that know, but I also have a jib and a genoa but have never raised the genoa yet. (I'm still working on properly setting the jib) But I'm curious how your rigging is set up and if it would be benificial to run another forestay so I can use both. Can you post a picture? Maybe someone can answere both our questions.
Cutter rig?
Kjoe, it sounds like your 21 is set up for a cutter style rig. I had only seen 22's like this, but my own V21 has 2 holes in the forestay chainplate, so maybe it's possible...
Kjoe, it sounds like your 21 is set up for a cutter style rig. I had only seen 22's like this, but my own V21 has 2 holes in the forestay chainplate, so maybe it's possible...
once upon a time
I had a Mac 25 and added a bow sprit to it and another forestay and tried the same thing you're talking about, a cutter rig. Tried it and the only difference I noticed was nothing in performance and bedlam during a tack. I continued with the bow sprit and extra forestay just for security reasons, but sailed her with two sails only thereafter. It was so much less trouble. Like my dear 1st mate tells me more than I'd like to hear "Too much sugar for a dime." Don't want to dampen your enthussiasm though.
I had a Mac 25 and added a bow sprit to it and another forestay and tried the same thing you're talking about, a cutter rig. Tried it and the only difference I noticed was nothing in performance and bedlam during a tack. I continued with the bow sprit and extra forestay just for security reasons, but sailed her with two sails only thereafter. It was so much less trouble. Like my dear 1st mate tells me more than I'd like to hear "Too much sugar for a dime." Don't want to dampen your enthussiasm though.
woops I should probably attach the pic eh?
sorry forgot to attach the pic any way here is one of the two forstays in quetion.
sorry forgot to attach the pic any way here is one of the two forstays in quetion.
I think Charlie Cobra has a double forestay
on his v21, try contacting him on the general forum, since he got his big boat...then again he may be sailing this weekend. I seem to remember a discussion a couple of months ago, Have you checked the archives? My 22-2 has only one forestay, so no help there. Tim
on his v21, try contacting him on the general forum, since he got his big boat...then again he may be sailing this weekend. I seem to remember a discussion a couple of months ago, Have you checked the archives? My 22-2 has only one forestay, so no help there. Tim
Consdider this
If you want to use the genoa, try removing the inner fore-stay and lash it to the mast. This way it won't get in the way when you tack. Either the genoa or the jib can be set on the forward stay. Don't be afraid of the size of the genoa, it can give you real power in light winds. In strong winds switch to the jib. In really strong winds re-attach the inner stay and fly the the jib there. Unless you plan long distances with out need of changing tacks, I wouldn't go to the trouble of two headsails at the same time. I'm assuming your sails are hanked on with no roller furlers. Even a roller furler on the foreward stay would make it easier furl the genoa, tack the boat, and let the genoa out on the new tack. A roller furler on both the genoa and the jib would be the best deal for ease of choosing which sails sails to use. My Mac 25 had a hank on jib and genoa which worked on a roller furler. My current boat, a 26M has only the genoa with a bolt rope CDI furler and can be reefed (furled) to the size of a jib. IMHO keep it simple.
If you want to use the genoa, try removing the inner fore-stay and lash it to the mast. This way it won't get in the way when you tack. Either the genoa or the jib can be set on the forward stay. Don't be afraid of the size of the genoa, it can give you real power in light winds. In strong winds switch to the jib. In really strong winds re-attach the inner stay and fly the the jib there. Unless you plan long distances with out need of changing tacks, I wouldn't go to the trouble of two headsails at the same time. I'm assuming your sails are hanked on with no roller furlers. Even a roller furler on the foreward stay would make it easier furl the genoa, tack the boat, and let the genoa out on the new tack. A roller furler on both the genoa and the jib would be the best deal for ease of choosing which sails sails to use. My Mac 25 had a hank on jib and genoa which worked on a roller furler. My current boat, a 26M has only the genoa with a bolt rope CDI furler and can be reefed (furled) to the size of a jib. IMHO keep it simple.
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