If you're boat is in the northeast or mid-atlantic, what do you plan to do about hurricane Isabel? Have you already decided to haul it out, still watching the storm track or are you just gonna leave it in the water? I know the Isabel is still a ways away, but Monday or late week is the only chance I'll have to get my Hunter 26 out of Barnegat Bay in NJ. Monday will pose all kinds of problems with my work and travel schedule, but can be done if it must be done. Is it foolish to wait until Thursday or Friday when the weather may be kind of bad already? I'd appreciate all thoughts. I'm used to being on an inland lake, not coastal waters. Thanks Ron Mehringer s/v Hydro-Therapy
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I'm sure glad..
...that I put oversize mooring gear on this season. 350lb with 45' of 5/8 chain sitting in 9' of water with a thick mud bottom. Once the mooring sets up it never drags. Double 3/4" nylon penants to the bow cleats, but I will run line from the penants around the mast base to help with the shock loading on the bow cleats. The main and all windage will be removed, the wheel locked straight. My biggest fear is other boats dragging down on me, or breaking free.
...that I put oversize mooring gear on this season. 350lb with 45' of 5/8 chain sitting in 9' of water with a thick mud bottom. Once the mooring sets up it never drags. Double 3/4" nylon penants to the bow cleats, but I will run line from the penants around the mast base to help with the shock loading on the bow cleats. The main and all windage will be removed, the wheel locked straight. My biggest fear is other boats dragging down on me, or breaking free.
NC Hurricane prep
I'm Heading out tomorrow afternoon to take care of Kittiwake. My plans are to take head sail down, remove all canvas, remove shore power, roll and wrap mainsail to mast, deflate the dinghy and put it below, remove the dinghy motor, grill, and life sling from stern rail. I am in a very protected marina, so reducing as much windage as possible should keep her from too much heel. I will put out my storm fenders, tie her so we can adjust her from the docks when the water comes in and ride her out at the marina so we can adjust lines unless she comes in at Cat 3 or higher. Then we will leave the lines adjusted as best we can and pray.
I'm Heading out tomorrow afternoon to take care of Kittiwake. My plans are to take head sail down, remove all canvas, remove shore power, roll and wrap mainsail to mast, deflate the dinghy and put it below, remove the dinghy motor, grill, and life sling from stern rail. I am in a very protected marina, so reducing as much windage as possible should keep her from too much heel. I will put out my storm fenders, tie her so we can adjust her from the docks when the water comes in and ride her out at the marina so we can adjust lines unless she comes in at Cat 3 or higher. Then we will leave the lines adjusted as best we can and pray.
Isabel plans
I think I would do something before Thursday. I am still watching but think I will take my sails home and add extra lines and fenders either Monday or Tuesday. I spent today watching a few boats being moved up river to the marina I am in. Maybe cautious, but early plans are probably best. My biggest concerns are the winds blowing stuff from the yard or other boats breaking loose. Good Luck to all, and lets hope the sailing Gods are with us all.
I think I would do something before Thursday. I am still watching but think I will take my sails home and add extra lines and fenders either Monday or Tuesday. I spent today watching a few boats being moved up river to the marina I am in. Maybe cautious, but early plans are probably best. My biggest concerns are the winds blowing stuff from the yard or other boats breaking loose. Good Luck to all, and lets hope the sailing Gods are with us all.
Hurricane Prep
We just returned from our marina at the Norfolk Naval Base which is located at the southern end of the Chesapeake Bay. We removed the sails, took off the bimini and dodger covers, doubled all lines and backed in to the slip so our mast and that of the adjacent boat wouldn't end up dueling each other. (Been there, done that.) Also closed all the thru hulls fittings. I'll recheck everything on Wed. We hope that Pat Robertson prays Isabel away as he did another hurricane whch was heading our way about 10 years ago. Also considering a hurricane party for Thur. pm.; everyone's invited. Dave Winiker Champagne on Ice
We just returned from our marina at the Norfolk Naval Base which is located at the southern end of the Chesapeake Bay. We removed the sails, took off the bimini and dodger covers, doubled all lines and backed in to the slip so our mast and that of the adjacent boat wouldn't end up dueling each other. (Been there, done that.) Also closed all the thru hulls fittings. I'll recheck everything on Wed. We hope that Pat Robertson prays Isabel away as he did another hurricane whch was heading our way about 10 years ago. Also considering a hurricane party for Thur. pm.; everyone's invited. Dave Winiker Champagne on Ice
I don't think..
...that Isabelle is listening to Pat Robertson or anyone for that matter. Mother Nature does whatever she wants regardless of what anyone says or does. The best thing is preperation.
...that Isabelle is listening to Pat Robertson or anyone for that matter. Mother Nature does whatever she wants regardless of what anyone says or does. The best thing is preperation.
up a creek
Dave I am up in Smithfield...bottom of bay off of the James River. I am considering running Banana Wind up a close by creek setting two anchors and hoping for the best.
Dave I am up in Smithfield...bottom of bay off of the James River. I am considering running Banana Wind up a close by creek setting two anchors and hoping for the best.
Scuttle .......
I think that the option that offers the most protection is sending her to the bottom. If the storm has a bead on your boat . 155 mph winds, If I could not move my boat (cat25) I would seriously consider stripping the boat, Winches, rigging, electrical, pull the plug and send her south. This option would appeal most to me if the boat wa old and posibly not insured. After the storm just get her floated and redo the wood inside that you could not take off. Just an idea.
I think that the option that offers the most protection is sending her to the bottom. If the storm has a bead on your boat . 155 mph winds, If I could not move my boat (cat25) I would seriously consider stripping the boat, Winches, rigging, electrical, pull the plug and send her south. This option would appeal most to me if the boat wa old and posibly not insured. After the storm just get her floated and redo the wood inside that you could not take off. Just an idea.
I keep it properly insured and...
...my dock lines are redundant so that any one of them could fail and the boat is still ok. My slip is well sheltered from the wind and storm surges are kept in check by small inlets. I am not sure that my boat would be better off on the hard. alan P.S. Ron, didn't you used to keep your boat on the lake?
...my dock lines are redundant so that any one of them could fail and the boat is still ok. My slip is well sheltered from the wind and storm surges are kept in check by small inlets. I am not sure that my boat would be better off on the hard. alan P.S. Ron, didn't you used to keep your boat on the lake?
Alan
Yes. I used to be on Lake Hopatcong in NJ. Oddly enough, that lake once flooded so badly, due to heavy rains and some broken upstream dams, that my boat rose well above the dock. The lines were strained and some snapped. Others were loosened by the marina owner in attempt to save mine and other boats. Fortunately there was no large wave action and the boat was unharmed. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
Yes. I used to be on Lake Hopatcong in NJ. Oddly enough, that lake once flooded so badly, due to heavy rains and some broken upstream dams, that my boat rose well above the dock. The lines were strained and some snapped. Others were loosened by the marina owner in attempt to save mine and other boats. Fortunately there was no large wave action and the boat was unharmed. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
I might anchor
But probably not. If I were in a marina with a lot of sailboats, I'd consider it more, but all the boats next to me are powerboats. So I don't have to worry about my mast getting tangled with anyone else. My slip is fairly well protected, and I'm halfway up the Chesapeake. So I'll be heading down to the dock once a day this week to check on my lines and make everything secure. My docks are relatively low to the water; lets hope I don't have to wade out to the boat.
But probably not. If I were in a marina with a lot of sailboats, I'd consider it more, but all the boats next to me are powerboats. So I don't have to worry about my mast getting tangled with anyone else. My slip is fairly well protected, and I'm halfway up the Chesapeake. So I'll be heading down to the dock once a day this week to check on my lines and make everything secure. My docks are relatively low to the water; lets hope I don't have to wade out to the boat.
Isabel is coming...
...and we're still debating the subject of hauling our H23 or letting her ride it out. We're fairly well protected in a marina with floating dock in a cove off the western shore of the Barnegat Bay. Of course, there is danger of damage not only if our boat gets torn from her slip, but also if other boats do. I guess it's also reasonable to assume the dock itself could get ripped apart, too! However, since our boat is small, and we do have a trailer, I suspect we'll pull her out and bring her inland on Wednesday if it looks like Isabel is going to pay us a visit. But before I batten down the hatches,I gotta go for a sail... Good luck to all! Jim Maroldo s/v: "'Lil Wass Ett III"
...and we're still debating the subject of hauling our H23 or letting her ride it out. We're fairly well protected in a marina with floating dock in a cove off the western shore of the Barnegat Bay. Of course, there is danger of damage not only if our boat gets torn from her slip, but also if other boats do. I guess it's also reasonable to assume the dock itself could get ripped apart, too! However, since our boat is small, and we do have a trailer, I suspect we'll pull her out and bring her inland on Wednesday if it looks like Isabel is going to pay us a visit. But before I batten down the hatches,I gotta go for a sail... Good luck to all! Jim Maroldo s/v: "'Lil Wass Ett III"
Tidal Surge Concern
Years ago we looked at waterfront property in Providence, RI. It was a two story house sitting up on a fairly high bank where I could visualize our boat out front. However.... a neighbor said that during a hurricane that came nearby the sea level rose to just under the second floor!!! If my boat was left in the water I'd be really concerned about debris that is adrift causing problems. How well were the pilings driven? How strong are the pilings (old with rot inside?)? How much load could the pilings take before they fail in a domino effect and the whole marina goes adrift.
Years ago we looked at waterfront property in Providence, RI. It was a two story house sitting up on a fairly high bank where I could visualize our boat out front. However.... a neighbor said that during a hurricane that came nearby the sea level rose to just under the second floor!!! If my boat was left in the water I'd be really concerned about debris that is adrift causing problems. How well were the pilings driven? How strong are the pilings (old with rot inside?)? How much load could the pilings take before they fail in a domino effect and the whole marina goes adrift.
Remove everything that can get damaged if sunk.
Or at least that is my plan. I am on the south shore of Long Island, NY. If we are going to be hit dead on I'll yank the outboard, battery, sails, toolboxes, etc. I have an O'Day Outlaw (26') and I am fairly lucky that I am at the very end of a river off of a protected bay. Normal tidal range is only 2' to 3'. I can loosen my lines at my dock to allow another 3' to 5' of movement without hurting anything too badly but beyond that I will have to go down to the marina and adjust the lines on the fly as it happens. I hope it doesn't come to that. I am also lucky that I only have motorboats to each side of me.
Or at least that is my plan. I am on the south shore of Long Island, NY. If we are going to be hit dead on I'll yank the outboard, battery, sails, toolboxes, etc. I have an O'Day Outlaw (26') and I am fairly lucky that I am at the very end of a river off of a protected bay. Normal tidal range is only 2' to 3'. I can loosen my lines at my dock to allow another 3' to 5' of movement without hurting anything too badly but beyond that I will have to go down to the marina and adjust the lines on the fly as it happens. I hope it doesn't come to that. I am also lucky that I only have motorboats to each side of me.
Already pull some stuff this past weekend
I am 40 miles up the Hudson River, so being inland will help. This past weekend I pulled the Dingy, the Dingy outboard, and all equipment related to the Dingy. Depending on the storm track on Wendnesday I will take down the Dodger and Bimini, and Jib. I have in-mast furling, so I will furl it most of the way in. Take down the life sling, and close all thru hulls. I read one post that where they were going to stow away their show power, I guess I will also do that.
I am 40 miles up the Hudson River, so being inland will help. This past weekend I pulled the Dingy, the Dingy outboard, and all equipment related to the Dingy. Depending on the storm track on Wendnesday I will take down the Dodger and Bimini, and Jib. I have in-mast furling, so I will furl it most of the way in. Take down the life sling, and close all thru hulls. I read one post that where they were going to stow away their show power, I guess I will also do that.
Aim for the mudflats
I will be traveling to my boat tonight, and tomorrow morning my wife and I will strip everything movable off of her and then we will take her up the Trent river and anchor her with two anchors. I am going to intentionally anchor off of some mudflats so that if she gets blown loose maybe she will go into the flats and settle into the soft mud and not be damaged too much. I am really nervous about this one as the track has the hurricane passing right over or near my marina in New Bern. God bless us all.
I will be traveling to my boat tonight, and tomorrow morning my wife and I will strip everything movable off of her and then we will take her up the Trent river and anchor her with two anchors. I am going to intentionally anchor off of some mudflats so that if she gets blown loose maybe she will go into the flats and settle into the soft mud and not be damaged too much. I am really nervous about this one as the track has the hurricane passing right over or near my marina in New Bern. God bless us all.
She's high & dry
I took the day off and took Hydro-Therapy out of the water today. Now I can rest easier. Had hoped to tow her up to northern NJ (where I live) but there's something wrong with the brakes on my front right trailer wheel. By the time I towed it 3 or 4 miles from the ramp to my friend's shore house it was smoking. My guess is that the brake is remaining partly engaged. I don't think it's the hub. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
I took the day off and took Hydro-Therapy out of the water today. Now I can rest easier. Had hoped to tow her up to northern NJ (where I live) but there's something wrong with the brakes on my front right trailer wheel. By the time I towed it 3 or 4 miles from the ramp to my friend's shore house it was smoking. My guess is that the brake is remaining partly engaged. I don't think it's the hub. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
Getting ready
I am up a creek and not many other boats around my floating dock. Went to boat today and took all canvas and sails off and anything loose. I'll be going back tommorrow and adding extra lines and fenders and hoping all this work is for nothing and Isabel will go out to sea.
I am up a creek and not many other boats around my floating dock. Went to boat today and took all canvas and sails off and anything loose. I'll be going back tommorrow and adding extra lines and fenders and hoping all this work is for nothing and Isabel will go out to sea.
Headed down to Solomons tomorrow (+)
To add a second set of lines at all four corners and a second spring line. We went out last night and purchased some extra fenders as well. We'll get all the canvas off, sails, dodger, winch covers, bungee the halyards, seal off the cowl vents and companionway boards with plastic and duct tape, take all extra gear out of the cabin. My wife is planning on covering the saloon and settee cushions in plastic as well... and oh yeah--pray a lot! Bill
To add a second set of lines at all four corners and a second spring line. We went out last night and purchased some extra fenders as well. We'll get all the canvas off, sails, dodger, winch covers, bungee the halyards, seal off the cowl vents and companionway boards with plastic and duct tape, take all extra gear out of the cabin. My wife is planning on covering the saloon and settee cushions in plastic as well... and oh yeah--pray a lot! Bill
Nick
I'm sure you'll see some rough weather, but I think the storm will pass far enough inland that Long Island shouldn't have any serious problems. See related link for NOAA info on Isabel and her track. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
I'm sure you'll see some rough weather, but I think the storm will pass far enough inland that Long Island shouldn't have any serious problems. See related link for NOAA info on Isabel and her track. Ron Mehringer H26 Hydro-Therapy
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