Is This For Real?
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For Real?
It's plausible, running up the face of a breaking wave under power. If it's for real you can bet somebody got hurt when the bow dug back in.
It's plausible, running up the face of a breaking wave under power. If it's for real you can bet somebody got hurt when the bow dug back in.
Places not to be when ishe lands...
1. On the throne in the head; 2. lying head-forward in the bow berth; 3. walking back up the companionway steps with your hands full; 4. sitting on a "catbird" seat along the cockpit rail; 5. On your way along the side deck to check the boom
1. On the throne in the head; 2. lying head-forward in the bow berth; 3. walking back up the companionway steps with your hands full; 4. sitting on a "catbird" seat along the cockpit rail; 5. On your way along the side deck to check the boom
Motor
Looks like his is running but I've done sailing like that before. Hull takes a pounding but it handles it just fine. It's actually a fun ride on the bow, but be very very careful getting out there. I was crazy enough to do it while I was single handed and no tether. Yeah...I'm crazy
Looks like his is running but I've done sailing like that before. Hull takes a pounding but it handles it just fine. It's actually a fun ride on the bow, but be very very careful getting out there. I was crazy enough to do it while I was single handed and no tether. Yeah...I'm crazy
Aussie Hydrofoils
In Australia there are many hydrofoil ferries that are used to speed commuters across damp sections. The strut extending from the bottom of the hull obviously provides lift to raise the it above the waves so commuters can read their mornng newspapers without jarring bumps. The boat is traveling under power (note the luffing sail) but the ever-inventive Ozlanders must be working at reducing ferry ticket costs by adding auxiliary sails for when the wind is favorable. (Probably on the return trip, based on the wind shown here. ) Reading the link provided by the original poster indicates that the photo is NOT fabricated. Sometimes I wish my morning commute could be so smooth and carefree.
In Australia there are many hydrofoil ferries that are used to speed commuters across damp sections. The strut extending from the bottom of the hull obviously provides lift to raise the it above the waves so commuters can read their mornng newspapers without jarring bumps. The boat is traveling under power (note the luffing sail) but the ever-inventive Ozlanders must be working at reducing ferry ticket costs by adding auxiliary sails for when the wind is favorable. (Probably on the return trip, based on the wind shown here. ) Reading the link provided by the original poster indicates that the photo is NOT fabricated. Sometimes I wish my morning commute could be so smooth and carefree.
Actually....
it is fake. Nobody is driving and no way would you have an autopilot on in breaking waves area. Also, for all but the rudder to be out of the water, the boat would have to be going 40 kts which we all know that boat can't do it. I've had at least part of my keel out of the water, but no way the entire boat.
it is fake. Nobody is driving and no way would you have an autopilot on in breaking waves area. Also, for all but the rudder to be out of the water, the boat would have to be going 40 kts which we all know that boat can't do it. I've had at least part of my keel out of the water, but no way the entire boat.
I agree...
No way could it be airborne without a lot of speed. And the keel doesn't look right either. Sail On... Terry
No way could it be airborne without a lot of speed. And the keel doesn't look right either. Sail On... Terry
Amazing...
somehow we have come to the absolute conclusion that this is a fake. Based on what? Because you can't see anyone at the helm? maybe they are on the lee side and are hanging on for dear life. Keel looks funny? What should the keel look like if it really were happening? 40 kts? I think it could be done going 25 kts. Or by running up the face of a big wave... Is it possible, just possible, that the picture is real and no one trying to put a fake past anyone? No way could not be, things like that never get recorded on film. Besides even if they did no one would ever believe it was for real... These must all be fake too...
somehow we have come to the absolute conclusion that this is a fake. Based on what? Because you can't see anyone at the helm? maybe they are on the lee side and are hanging on for dear life. Keel looks funny? What should the keel look like if it really were happening? 40 kts? I think it could be done going 25 kts. Or by running up the face of a big wave... Is it possible, just possible, that the picture is real and no one trying to put a fake past anyone? No way could not be, things like that never get recorded on film. Besides even if they did no one would ever believe it was for real... These must all be fake too...
Your nuts
That boat can't do 25 knots either. If you've ever sailed over waves like that, you would know that as soon as the boats majority of weight passed the wave, it would slam down. Oh yeah...there isn't much of a lee side anyway. No reason to be on the side. It's a fake!
That boat can't do 25 knots either. If you've ever sailed over waves like that, you would know that as soon as the boats majority of weight passed the wave, it would slam down. Oh yeah...there isn't much of a lee side anyway. No reason to be on the side. It's a fake!
Only Way I See It
Anyone else who surfs can imagine this as well. If the boat was running a channel with a sand bar and dropped off the back as a wave passed by. Notice the wake from the keel. If it was Photoshoped it is a very wery good job.
Anyone else who surfs can imagine this as well. If the boat was running a channel with a sand bar and dropped off the back as a wave passed by. Notice the wake from the keel. If it was Photoshoped it is a very wery good job.
Yes it can be real
High Performance race boats can and often do plan and exceed hull speed-espescilly in the conditions in the photo. Even Displacement cruising boats can in the right conditions. I sailed a Beneteau 50 from Ft. Laurdale to the Bahamas and back-on the way back we AVERAGED 10 knots and surfed down the back side of waves (Like the photo) at 13 to 14 knots-well over hull speed.
High Performance race boats can and often do plan and exceed hull speed-espescilly in the conditions in the photo. Even Displacement cruising boats can in the right conditions. I sailed a Beneteau 50 from Ft. Laurdale to the Bahamas and back-on the way back we AVERAGED 10 knots and surfed down the back side of waves (Like the photo) at 13 to 14 knots-well over hull speed.
Sayer 38 "Belle"
I quote from the forum where the photo originated; "The boat is the Sayer 38 "Belle", from Brisbane Australia, motoring out over the Wide Bay Bar and catching a nasty sea...." http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6336&page=1&pp=15&highlight=extreme+sailing
I quote from the forum where the photo originated; "The boat is the Sayer 38 "Belle", from Brisbane Australia, motoring out over the Wide Bay Bar and catching a nasty sea...." http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6336&page=1&pp=15&highlight=extreme+sailing
You guys are assuming
the the boat alone has to traveling at 25-35 knots. Not so. The wave itself could be traveling that fast (or nearly) so that the combined CLOSING speed between wave and boat could be in that range. One of the posts on that thread also states (I think) that the boat is exiting the pass so that an arriving wave could very well be hitting the bar at speed and could yield a good launch.
the the boat alone has to traveling at 25-35 knots. Not so. The wave itself could be traveling that fast (or nearly) so that the combined CLOSING speed between wave and boat could be in that range. One of the posts on that thread also states (I think) that the boat is exiting the pass so that an arriving wave could very well be hitting the bar at speed and could yield a good launch.
Rick Sylvester
No...we are including the speed of the wave. Take your car and go over a big bump. If your only going 25 mph, you will not even come close to air...now if your doing 45, then you have a chance. Same thing here. Physics is physics. I've been sailing in those type of conditions and the best he could do is to have part of his keel and bow out of the water...no way the entire boat.
No...we are including the speed of the wave. Take your car and go over a big bump. If your only going 25 mph, you will not even come close to air...now if your doing 45, then you have a chance. Same thing here. Physics is physics. I've been sailing in those type of conditions and the best he could do is to have part of his keel and bow out of the water...no way the entire boat.
Guess everyone here is the expert
since the photo has been categorically denounced as a fake. Hope none of you are ever in a situation where you take a picture of a boat doing exactly that, because even if you were there you still wouldn't believe it happened. Heck, you might not believe it even if you were on the boat. BTW, my reference to 25 kts was pointing out that 40 kts was a number pulled out of the air, just like 25 kts... or 12 kts... or 26.7 kts...
since the photo has been categorically denounced as a fake. Hope none of you are ever in a situation where you take a picture of a boat doing exactly that, because even if you were there you still wouldn't believe it happened. Heck, you might not believe it even if you were on the boat. BTW, my reference to 25 kts was pointing out that 40 kts was a number pulled out of the air, just like 25 kts... or 12 kts... or 26.7 kts...
I CAN ALMOST HEAR IT....
The MISSUS' on board hollerin'... another stunt like that, and IM WALKING HOME...and youre sleeping on the COUCH tonight !!!
The MISSUS' on board hollerin'... another stunt like that, and IM WALKING HOME...and youre sleeping on the COUCH tonight !!!
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