I've seen a 1977 Hunter 27 advertised and am wondering if this is a Cherubini designed boat? It is advertised as 77_75-84, and I assume that indicates it is a Cherubini designed boat. I've read a lot of references to Cherubini designs on the Hunter list, but am not sure why they are considered so great. Does anyone have reference to a book or other info that might tell me why these have become considered classic boats? Or, perhaps someone could give me a brief view of what exactly it is that makes Hunter owners drool over the concept of a Cherubini-designed boat. I've been sailing for about three years on my Hunter 18.5, and still have one helluva lot to learn about sailboats and sailing, so if you can help me I'd be grateful. Thanks, Peter Kozup, s/v Katy Kaye
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Yes it's a Cherubini
I guess you are trying to arouse the partisans! Check out the header of the Cherubini forum from the main page. He designed most/all of the Hunter line from '75 to around '84. The most cited desirable characteristics include: Excellent cabin room for the length. Reasonable prices. Attractive design. For me this means that I like their looks, they sail pretty well, and the design is quite seaworthy. (They all have capsize screens under 2.0. Of course, actual seaworthiness depends on how well an old boat is maintained, rigged, and sailed.) As a personal preference, I like the heavier keel, and larger sail area compared to the later 89-94 27. (3000 pounds with 362 sg. ft on the Cherubini versus 2000 pounds with 307 sq. ft. on the successor.) And, to me, Lady Lillie really looks like a sailboat! David (Do note that much of what I said above are my preferences - since I bought the boat I liked, I do like the boat I have! I considered a Catalina 30 at the same time, and would have been happy with it, but did like the Cherubini lines better, even then.)
I guess you are trying to arouse the partisans! Check out the header of the Cherubini forum from the main page. He designed most/all of the Hunter line from '75 to around '84. The most cited desirable characteristics include: Excellent cabin room for the length. Reasonable prices. Attractive design. For me this means that I like their looks, they sail pretty well, and the design is quite seaworthy. (They all have capsize screens under 2.0. Of course, actual seaworthiness depends on how well an old boat is maintained, rigged, and sailed.) As a personal preference, I like the heavier keel, and larger sail area compared to the later 89-94 27. (3000 pounds with 362 sg. ft on the Cherubini versus 2000 pounds with 307 sq. ft. on the successor.) And, to me, Lady Lillie really looks like a sailboat! David (Do note that much of what I said above are my preferences - since I bought the boat I liked, I do like the boat I have! I considered a Catalina 30 at the same time, and would have been happy with it, but did like the Cherubini lines better, even then.)
It is all opinion
We bought our 82 H27 based on a number of specific criteria and had never heard the name Cherubini. It has 6 foot head room, enclosed head, air circulation, it looked nice, had a reputation for forgiving mistakes, did not need work, and the price was right. After accumulating about six months of experience with it, we have not regretted the choice. For two adults, sea dog, and ship's cat it is comfortable for extended weekends, has not scared us to death in the big waves, and the systems can be understood by a fellow with no mechanical experience. Given unlimited resources would I have something else, you bet, but this is a good boat. Yet, sailboats are art. Please yourself, you have to live with it and look at it. Andy s/v Baroque
We bought our 82 H27 based on a number of specific criteria and had never heard the name Cherubini. It has 6 foot head room, enclosed head, air circulation, it looked nice, had a reputation for forgiving mistakes, did not need work, and the price was right. After accumulating about six months of experience with it, we have not regretted the choice. For two adults, sea dog, and ship's cat it is comfortable for extended weekends, has not scared us to death in the big waves, and the systems can be understood by a fellow with no mechanical experience. Given unlimited resources would I have something else, you bet, but this is a good boat. Yet, sailboats are art. Please yourself, you have to live with it and look at it. Andy s/v Baroque
What makes a Cherubini great ..part 1
The Cherubini Hunters were designed by a man with a gift. John Cherubini was a man with an engineering background, but also had an appreciation for art and an eye for beauty. He was one of the great marine architects with a gift for blending function with form. What Hunter did with many of his designs is in a way a shame. The quality of manufacturing / workmanship (interior joinery & fiberglass tabbing) and in some cases the materials (like the Gray ports) used, were quite poor. But, because of what Hunter did (build these boats with "Chevy" quality), there are many of us sailing these wonderful boats that would otherwise not be able to afford one. Almost all of the flaws in workmanship and materials can be improved on by clever, "do it yourself" type owners. I think it's kind of neat that we can own and sail a boat designed by one of the old “masters". Kind of gives our boats a touch of class don't you think? For more info, get a copy of the March/April issue of "Good Old Boat" magazine. Don Bodemann
The Cherubini Hunters were designed by a man with a gift. John Cherubini was a man with an engineering background, but also had an appreciation for art and an eye for beauty. He was one of the great marine architects with a gift for blending function with form. What Hunter did with many of his designs is in a way a shame. The quality of manufacturing / workmanship (interior joinery & fiberglass tabbing) and in some cases the materials (like the Gray ports) used, were quite poor. But, because of what Hunter did (build these boats with "Chevy" quality), there are many of us sailing these wonderful boats that would otherwise not be able to afford one. Almost all of the flaws in workmanship and materials can be improved on by clever, "do it yourself" type owners. I think it's kind of neat that we can own and sail a boat designed by one of the old “masters". Kind of gives our boats a touch of class don't you think? For more info, get a copy of the March/April issue of "Good Old Boat" magazine. Don Bodemann
You H27 guys are. . . . .
worse than the H33 and H37C guys(and gals). Not only do you love the classic looks you think they are fast!
Don's article in GOOD OLD BOAT was excellent. Don't forget our own photo site, link below.
worse than the H33 and H37C guys(and gals). Not only do you love the classic looks you think they are fast!
Don's article in GOOD OLD BOAT was excellent. Don't forget our own photo site, link below.You've got to love your Hunter, Ed
Because it is the only way you will be able to up with the "stuff" you get from other sailors about Hunters.
Because it is the only way you will be able to up with the "stuff" you get from other sailors about Hunters.
For Mr Kozup
There is no opinion like that of a satisfied boat owner. I need make no further comments here. [wink] JC 2
There is no opinion like that of a satisfied boat owner. I need make no further comments here. [wink] JC 2
My problem is this...
I've owned my '82 Hunter for 6 years now. I keep thinking that I need to move up, however, I AM REALLY ATTACHED TO THIS BOAT! It's gotten me through some pretty hairy situations on Lake Erie. It has plenty of problems, however, I love this boat!!
I've owned my '82 Hunter for 6 years now. I keep thinking that I need to move up, however, I AM REALLY ATTACHED TO THIS BOAT! It's gotten me through some pretty hairy situations on Lake Erie. It has plenty of problems, however, I love this boat!!
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