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"Man overboard" may be the most chilling sound associated with sailing. Even when tied to the dock in calm conditions there's plenty of opportunity for tragedy. Have you had crew in the water? Did it happen while you were under sail, while docking or launching the boat, or when tied to a pier? How did you get the crew member back aboard? Was it easy with a walk-through transom, or did you have to rig a hoist or use the boom? Had you practiced man overboard drills and if so, did it help? What did you learn from the experience that has helped you keep everyone on the boat? Share your experiences here, then vote in the Quick Quiz at the bottom of the home page. (Based on a quiz suggestion by John Tucker, Lancer 25)
 
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T J Furstenau

My Experience and Practice

Only man-overboard we had was while anchoring off of Kelley's Island in Lake Erie several years ago, my youngest daughter (2 at the time) was in the stern rail seat as we were looking for the right spot. She leaned over and flipped off the boat, life jacket on. Sails were down, and we were at low idle at maybe 1/2 knot. My wife (also life jacket on) quickly jumped in after her, and they were easily brought in up the swim ladder through the open transom. Regarding practice and drills, my two oldest kids have been given permission at least once a weekend while out to "overboard" a life-jacket or dock bumper. We then go to retrieval mode, which generally works well. The two things that we DO really need to work on is having my wife at the wheel when this occurs, with me not helping (i.e. I'm the "man-overboard"). We also need to work on retrieval of actual people, some not helping themselves. Although the scoop stern and walk through transom make getting on the boat much easier, if hypothermia or injury were to play a factor, the MOB is not going to be much help. T J
 
Jun 8, 2004
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Catalina 320 Dana Point
Only an 80 Lb. Dalmation,

we were coming into a finger dock about 18" wide that rocked from side to side at a lake over 9000' (very cold water). Openbow runabout, dog decided to get off early to check out cute Lab at next dock. The dock rocked and dumped him between it and boat as boat was closing. My wife in the bow put one foot on dock then couldn't decide what to do next. She did change direction of boat so it was now drifting away from dock but her legs were now too far apart to go either way. I jumped up with dock line in hand, I gave her a shove toward dock so she went the right way then leapt onto dock with her, reached down and grapped dog by harness (for just such a purpose) yanked dog up on dock with one hand and pulled boat in with the other. 2 guys nearby started clapping and said it looked like "Circue de Soleil" there for a minute.
 
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u. e. chapa

mob 101

i practice m.o.b. procedures at least every other time i go out, in one form or another (homemade mob decoy, hat, pdf, etc), and i use either the heave-to or quick figure-8. it paid off in dollars when a passenger fell while retrieving my starboard fenders along midship to windward on a close reach. she slipped and fell in the drink (ship channel, 50ft deep, no traffic) at night. she had her pdf on (my requirement) and within a couple seconds, as i pointed up wind, i threw her the ship's mob buoy, set the rudder, and started pulling her in without incident. we couldn't have practiced it any faster. thanx. ¡Marisol!
 
Sep 24, 1999
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Hunter H46LE Sausalito
willowall

Coming around Cypress Point, in a race, we were hit by a willowall. The topping lift parted and the spinnaker pole dropped with such force that it snapped the starboard lifeline. Unfortunatel, four crew members were leaning on that lifeline, and when the boat rounded down they all took a swim. Took us longer to get the spinnaker back onboard, by the way, than to retrieve the crew. Nice thing about a round down is the boat stops dead. We had so many lines in the water at that point that everyone more or less pulled themselves back aboard.
 
Jul 15, 2004
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- - Vancouver BC
Mid Pacific Falling

I lost a man over the side with the Chute up approx 1800 miles offshore on a passage to Hawaii. The downhaul on the pole broke diring the gybe, the poor fellow was lauched off the deck like he was shot out of cannon. Fortunately it was daylight and calm seas, down came the chute, up went genoa and we turned around to collect our lost package.
 
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Brett Phillips

Leaving the Dock

Wy wife was at the helm as I guided our boat along the dock during departure. I failed to notice a hose bib sticking up, tripped, and ended up holding onto the lower lifeline as the boat coasted away from the slip. I eventually let go and swam to the dock. But the lesson learned for us is that, whenever possible, we depart the slip with all crew aboard.
 
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Rob Sherrill

On purpose for practice

Once the water gets warm in the St. John's river here in Jacksonville, I actually simulate a "man overboard" situation. I have two young teenage sons who I ask them to put on life jackets and when we least expect it for one of them to jump overboard and then we initiate the rescue. It is a controlled experience, and practice makes perfect. I am a flight instructor and we always practice emergency procedures before they become an actual practice. I would recommend this to everyone, depending on the conditions of the local sailing area. If it's too dangerous because of current, conditions, etc. It's better to just think about it.
 
Jun 3, 2004
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Beneteau 285 Chester ,Nova Scotia
Close call

A few years ago , during a Chester Race Week Race , I was near an island and saw a sun fish i think , or some such small board with a sail , the man had two small children on with him , going very fast , he could not control the boat or knew how to slow down , he yelled for help , said the plug was out and they were sinking , I quickly let the jib go free , run a line out the aft and started to close on them , by then the craft stopped because the plug was out and it filled with water , I made a circle around them , told the smallest child , a girl about 6 or 7 with alife jacket on , to grab hold of the line and I pulled her aboard , made another circle and brought the boy about 11 in , ask the father if he wanted to be taken in , he said he would stay with the boat , by then it was getting too shalow for my boat , so I said Id tow him to the safety of the lea side of the Island , I rapped the two childern in blankets , as by now they were cold , I tool them to shore , called for a friend to drive them home about 40 kms away , to this day I don't know their name and the father never soo much as said thanks.
 
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R Davison

I didn't get to the boat

I didn't even make it to the boat before getting wet. We had Launched Sea Dragon at La Conner Wa. While walking down the ramp to the dock I missed the last step (no dock cart board) and took a tumble ending upside down in the water next to the dock. With a few scratches and bruises I made it back on the dock with the only loss being the two hard back books that I was carrying.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Widgeon Wash DC
Practicing MOB -- Eye Opening Experience

I was a scout leader some years back. We'd practice MOB's regularly--sometimes just with a throwable, others, when conditions warranted, with a teenager. They'd all eventually learn how to return to the MOB, but what impressed (scared!) them most was trying to retrieve that person. Even in calm, warm water, even with two teens hauling, only the strongest were able to haul their fellows out of the water. While there are rigs that can be used for the purpose, setting these up, or dropping a rope ladder takes time. Morale--after they tried this drill, they rarely complained about wearing PFD's in any kind of weather (or at night). They realized that if they went in without the PFD, they might not be coming out.
 
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John Bedford

Practise does help...

We have practised with the MOB pole from time to time - it's interesting at how your heart starts to race despite the fact that it's only the MOB pole! We had a real life event when we decided to ignore the warnings on our kid's small inflatable dinghy that said "DO NOT TOW". What did they know, we asked ourselves... so, in got our twin 11 year old daughters with their 9 year old friend... wind started to pick up and we were steaming along at a nice 4.5k - all of a sudden, we hear screaming and to our amazement, we look back (we did have a spotter that saw the whole thing unfold, so the kids weren't the only ones screaming!!) just in time to see the dinghy on it's side dumping all three kids into the water. Our rule is mandatory PFDs for anyone under 18, so naturally, they all had theirs on, but it was their panic that I was concerned with. Life jackets aren't panic-proof and can slip off. Needless to say, we performed the CYA (that's Canadian Yachting Association for those wondering) modified tear-drop MOB drill and picked them all out of the water in under 60 seconds.
 
Jun 6, 2004
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Catalina 27 Dennis
Oops

I know this is a serious question and I diligently practice my quick stops and the retrieval of MOB life jackets. So far, I have not yet to put this practice into practice BUT in the great tradition of sharing foolish moments, I will relate the time before I got back into sailing regularly that I took a sail in a Mercury at Community Boating on the Charles in Boston. Nice breeze. Lost my hat. I really liked that hat so I went came about and approached it on the low side, beam reach. I then made a beam reach for it, shifting my considerable weight over the gunnel of deckless dinghy. You guessed it- swamp city. The Charles poured over the leeward side. They had to come out to get me, tow the boat in, etc. Duh. But I did get the hat; just lost my dignity. Roger
 
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Fred Scott

How to upset the First in command

Northern BC coast, I just pulled the anchor at Jenny Inlet and suggested we hoist the sail, as the wind looked good. The wife replied lets wait till we get out on Dean Channel first. She not really into sailing. As we were coming down through Jenny Inlet I saw a big sailboat past the entrance going fast and by the time we got to Dean Channel she was not in sight. The channel was rough and decided to cross on an angle to the waves to the other side. Out in the middle of the channel the wife suddenly says what's that floating way back there. I looked and said that's our dock fender and emmediatley turned about in huge waves and said we are going to practice MOB. When coming up on the fender I noticed the fender rope was floating out towards us. I slowed down raised the aft seat and sucured it to the life line before stepping out the back to retreave the fender shuting the engine off at the same time in order not to hook the propeller. I caught the fender and couldn't get it all the way out of the water as it was caught on something. I called the wife to pass me a rope any rope with an end on it. The rope came pass my head and I secured the rope. After getting everything back on board I turned around to find the wife as white as a sheet. I said the savest place is in the cockpit. She replied and why were hanging out the back end of the boat with no lifejacket on in this rough water. End of subject
 
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Tane'

practice, practice, practice

Yes, we practice MOB. It wasn't until after we tried rescueing the lost hat and ran over it that we decided practice was seriously needed. We have both a horseshoe and lifesling on the stern of our boat. We practiced two ways of returning to MOB. We also practiced with help from victim and an unconcious victim. Practice really brought out the important facts. Bringing a person onboard who is unconcious is difficult without a block and tackle. It can be very scary to see your boat sail away without you. The seas are not very forgiving and it's very difficult to see a person in the water even with a yellow or orange vest on.
 
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MShearson

Practise Practise Practise!!

I was sailing off the west coast of California, about 100 miles offshore with my nephew, his friend and an Instructor. We had 10 foot seas and had practised MOB many times before embarking on this trip. I was at the helm when the instructor unexpectably threw a fender overboard and yelled Man Overboard. I immediately told my nephew to watch the 'man overboard' and his friend to man the genoa sheets. Within about 10 seconds, I noticed that my newphew was watching his friend and not the man overboard. I instructed him to point at the man overboard and in 10 foot seas, you only get a glimps of it when it was on the crest of a wave. Well, we couldn't located the fender until the instructor pointed it out about 90 degrees from where we thought it was. Lessons learned. Practise when in rough sea conditions as something the size of a coconut his hard to see even in calm seas and many overboard conditions happen in rough seas. Emphasize the importance of maintaining a constant watch on the man overboard and NEVER take your eyes off them. Everyone on board should know and be able to perform the quick stop and figure eight rescue. Practise MOB constantly in all weather conditions preferably unexpectably. Practise retrieving disabled people. I have a 6 to 1 hoist system that can be attached to the end of the boom in 30 seconds. If someone is sailing with you on a fairly constant basis, teach them to sail. I heard a story of a wife whose husband had fallen overboard. They had sailed together for 20 years and he had never taught her to sail. She panicked, and eventually ran the boat up on a beach and he was never found. MOB is something that cannot be taken seriously enough. So Practise, practise, practise!
 
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Brad Newell

In the drink!

Actually, both my daughter and I have figured out how to fall off the back of our L-43, while at the dock. I did it in Hot Springs Cove, on Vancouver Island. Wendi did it in the harbor at Cabo. I just got wet; she got to take a complete shower and change after a dunking in that open sewer. A friend went over the side of our C&C40 after a race in front of downtown Everett, WA. I may yet sell that story to some publication; it's too funny for words. It was a case of a fairly knowledgeable sailor standing in front of the boom and pulling on it when jibing in light wind - in spite of my cautioning. Propelled by the boom, he cleared the lifelines and landed about ten feet from the boat. I completed a 540 and stopped alongside. He was a little red-faced coming up the stern ladder.
 
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mike p

question

I have a question about jack lines and harnesses. The main thing for a single hander, of course, is that life rings, MOB poles, Lights, even PFD's etc are pretty much worthless... You must never fall off the boat period... there is none to rescue you. so... I have a stern boarding ladder which goes into the water about 12 inches maybe more... I have a jack line and harness set up... But... lets say you are wearing all this and get over the lifelines and you are being dragged alongside the boat at 4 to 6 knots... are you going to get out of this jam? Does the jack line and harness tether really need to be long enough to allow you to get around behind the boat to grab the ladder? should the ladder have a floating line attached to it so you can pull it down from the water? (I don't really want to drag the ladder in the water all the time). With free-board I have I doubt if I would ever be able to get back on the boat from along side of it while being dragged along... Any ideas? mike@photobymike.com
 
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jeff mckinley

just this saturday...

my sister and brother-in-law were sailing with me outside jupiter inlet. we were beating into a mild easterlie with 2' seas. perfect learning conditions for sis at the helm.b.i.l. falls overboard from a small lurch(how in the..?).i got him spotted and she doesn't know how to process all my orders so i jump to the helm while she gets a line. we come about and ladder him up. ok, kids what was that all about etc. well, we come about again back to our original course, moving pretty good a little hove to and me and him are riding up front, me on the front deck when, i'll be darned- he falls again this time his legs pointing inward as he slowly slides off backwards into the drink. however, this time the forward port cleat was under him and had hooked into his bathing suit waistband. i kid you not. the slow descent was caused by his nylon suit gradualy tearing away as his weight pulled him down. can you picture this from the front deck? hilarious. i know you want to know if he came up with his suit. yes but he had to makeshift tie it back together which was itself a wreck. today he is well bruised and the suit in the three stooges hall of fame sailing display. i know m o b is a serious instantaneous situation. we got him out pretty well. i'm just wondering if some folks should stay off of the small boats. or is there really sealegs?
 
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Droop

Never let a drink girl on your boat!

Not good! She fell right off the fore deck. Alcohol and boating does not mix. Even if it is non working crew! She is very lucky to be alive. My best friend was at the tiler and was wearing a life jacket. He jump in and held her up until I got the boat over and the ladder down! NO WAY SHE COULD KEEP HER HEAD ABOVE WATER LET ALONE SWIM! She is allow on the boat only if she has not been drinking and there is no beer on board!
 
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