I am planning on running the halyards on my OD22, Cassidy, inside the mast. I am also planning on running these aft to the cockpit. I know that the convention is to place gen and main halyards on opposite sides of the cockpit, but I would like to put both on the same side so I could utilize one cabin top winch and rope clutch set. I know that this flouts convention, but is there any reason I couldn't run them on the same side? Would it be bad to load the mast with both halyards only on one side (i.e., does putting them on opposite side balance the load)? Thanks in advance, this forum is great!
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why do you want the halyards inside the mast? if they didn't come that way, you'll have to modify things, change the sheaves, cut exit holes, etc. Why not just leave it the way the designer/builder built it. One reason for the convention is so that any sailor can board any boat and sail it, because the halyards are ALWAYS in the same place.
why do you want the halyards inside the mast? if they didn't come that way, you'll have to modify things, change the sheaves, cut exit holes, etc. Why not just leave it the way the designer/builder built it. One reason for the convention is so that any sailor can board any boat and sail it, because the halyards are ALWAYS in the same place.
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Thank you for clearing up the reasons for the convention. Thanks also for your opinion on running the halyards internally. I will not have to replace any sheaves, the only modifications necessary would be the exit holes. This is no problem. I would like them internal mainly for aesthetics. I am a bit obs/comp about clutter, so hiding the halyards and topping lift inside is very appealing to me. Regardless, the question about running both halyards on the same side would apply whether or not they were internal. Assuming that I am willing to flaunt convention, would there be any problems with this? I believe that the loading occurs at the masthead and would not have a sig. directional component. Am I wrong about this? Thanks again
Thank you for clearing up the reasons for the convention. Thanks also for your opinion on running the halyards internally. I will not have to replace any sheaves, the only modifications necessary would be the exit holes. This is no problem. I would like them internal mainly for aesthetics. I am a bit obs/comp about clutter, so hiding the halyards and topping lift inside is very appealing to me. Regardless, the question about running both halyards on the same side would apply whether or not they were internal. Assuming that I am willing to flaunt convention, would there be any problems with this? I believe that the loading occurs at the masthead and would not have a sig. directional component. Am I wrong about this? Thanks again
Another problem with running the halyards inside
If you are modifying your mast that has external halyards by running them inside, you have to run them through a sleeve or you risk your halyard slapping on the inside of the mast where you can't do a thing to silence it. And I think you should be okay running both halyards to one side of your cabin top. The load on the mast will occur at the turning block at the base of the mast and it doesn't sound like a 10 to 15 degree angle change would make much if any differnece.
If you are modifying your mast that has external halyards by running them inside, you have to run them through a sleeve or you risk your halyard slapping on the inside of the mast where you can't do a thing to silence it. And I think you should be okay running both halyards to one side of your cabin top. The load on the mast will occur at the turning block at the base of the mast and it doesn't sound like a 10 to 15 degree angle change would make much if any differnece.
Josh: There is nothing wrong with bringing both halyards to the same side of the cabin top. I would add capacity for additional lines with the hardware, say a triple rope clutch, and a triple turning block (remember I said "I would", I'm not saying you should). You wont have any trouble keeping the halyars quiet, in fact it will be easier, despite what Brian says. They do not need to be run in a sleeve, that is for wiring. Also "I" would keep the jib halyard on the port side of the main halyard (if they are led aft on the starboard side of the cabin I would have the main halyard on the outside, and the jib halyard on the hatch side (inside), I hope this makes sense to you.
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Thanks Mick and Brian. I will let everyone know how the project went once it is completed. That might take a while though, lots of other stuff to do. Anyway, thanks again, this forum's users are great.
Thanks Mick and Brian. I will let everyone know how the project went once it is completed. That might take a while though, lots of other stuff to do. Anyway, thanks again, this forum's users are great.
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