Interesting Article About Missing (Now Dead) Gulf Coast Sailor

Feb 8, 2007
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Catalina 36 MKII Pensacola Beach, FL
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index...nd_on_pensacola_beach.html#incart_river_index

This guy was reported missing a few weeks ago after he didn't make it into Port St. Joe, FLon a solo trip from Gulf Shores, AL.
A few days later they found his boat anchored at Fort McRee near Pensacola.
A few days after that they found a body buried in the sand at the naval air station.
And about that same time they found a guy using his ID in Louisiana.

Be careful out there...
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
thanks Stan for posting this i have been wondering what happened...this is unfortunate and saddening .....getting to where you can't stand alone on this earth any more
 
Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Wow.. ya wonder if the dude was invited on board as crew or came aboard uninvitedly.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Wow.. ya wonder if the dude was invited on board as crew or came aboard uninvitedly.
yes that did cross my mind guess we will have to wait and see after the investigation and that may be fruitless as well
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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where you can't stand alone on this earth any more
Sad.:pray:
Jim...

PS: We are sharpening my speargun point and oiling my permitted side arm. Pirates beware!:angry:
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
permitted sidearm is that like you can have the keys to the car son ...just don't leave the yard.......
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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permitted sidearm
Perhaps I misnamed it. I don't wear it, even though I have training for conceal/carry. It is for BIG SHARKS or more likely the Admiral's peace of mind.
Jim...
 
May 24, 2004
7,140
CC 30 South Florida
Seems like an act of piracy to me. Just because just one guy got caught does not mean he acted alone or was even there at all. Stolen credit cards are usually fenced. The Police will likely frown at investigating Piracy and if they cannot tie the credit card fraud to the murder they will stop there. Federal investigators by the same token will treat it as a local police issue and do nothing. Then everyone can claim there is no Piracy in US waters.
 
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Jul 27, 2011
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Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
My impromptu guess is that he met his demise ashore walking on the beach at night, or something similar. It's hard to imagine a pirate rowing his victim to shore to bury when he could toss him into the water tied to an anchor, etc., if on the boat. Of course, a passport would be an unusual item to carry ashore for a walk, etc.
 
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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
It's hard to imagine a pirate rowing his victim to shore to bury.
I agree that is not a likely scenario but the article just says the body was found on the beach and it could have drifted there. After a few days it could have been covered by sand but not deep enough that it was spotted.
 
Jul 27, 2011
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Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
I agree that is not a likely scenario but the article just says the body was found on the beach and it could have drifted there. After a few days it could have been covered by sand but not deep enough that it was spotted.
I agree with that.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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True Detectives:rolleyes:
But... Clues....
1) Dinghy missing
2) Body found near NAS Pensacola (if on NAS not a civilian walking beach normally)
3) Passport and credit cards found/stolen ( possibly in water proof pouch floating is surf)
4) Perp caught 3 states away in LA trying to change to new ID to avoid Sex Offender ID in FL and a few bucks.


I am interested in Autopsy results and if the deceased Dinghy is found.

I am betting accident and not murder.
Jim...
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,086
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
True Detectives:rolleyes:
But... Clues....
1) Dinghy missing
2) Body found near NAS Pensacola (if on NAS not a civilian walking beach normally)
3) Passport and credit cards found/stolen ( possibly in water proof pouch floating is surf)
4) Perp caught 3 states away in LA trying to change to new ID to avoid Sex Offender ID in FL and a few bucks.


I am interested in Autopsy results and if the deceased Dinghy is found.

I am betting accident and not murder.
Jim...
I just can't figure why someone would be carrying a passport in any kind of pouch such that it could end up in the hands of a pirate or mugger, etc., unless the victim was somehow held up. Do US citizens now carry passports as routine IDs as in driver's licenses or state issued ID cards? I think the victim's driver's license was also found so that does not seem likely.
 
Sep 15, 2009
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S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
in time you will see not being able to enter a state that does not have a chip in the dl and visa versa........and poor old charlie couldn't get of the MTA ...he was the man who never returned.....
 
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Jun 21, 2004
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Kings..,
Might be a passport card that some individuals routinely carry; not the typical passport book.
Will be interesting to see the results of the autopsy. Victim could have been dumped overboard after being overtaken and drifted onto NAS property in which case the guy in possession of the credit cards & ID would be prime suspect. The guy has a criminal history, is fraudulently using credit card, & is fraudulently trying to obtain a LA license using the victim's name.....very suspicious. My gut feeling is that he is the killer.
I have anchored at Fort Macrae many nights; beautiful spot. It's a sad day when you can't do a coastal cruise without fearing for your life. Condolences go out to victim's family.
 
Jul 1, 2004
398
Catalina 30 Atlanta GA
Back in the 80's the Coast Guard was advising not to do the "big bend". They were saying that boats were captured for the drug trade and crew were often killed or set adrift. It was a vast area difficult to patrol and control. Desolate from Cedar Key to Appalachacola on the shore route. I guess much has not changed.
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
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1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
A dusting of the boat for Mr. Rodger's prints is all that's needed to put him away.........
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
folks partially buried on beach in fla, found underwater wrapped in chains on west coat after showing boat to potential purchasers.....what other acts of malintent have been perpetrated upon boaters in usa in name of accidental death????
seems those pretending to be safe within specified national boundaries are not so safe, after all... acts such as these happen daily in lost angeles and detroit and other usa cities, yet we are confused and surprised when it happens on water.
seems to be as if folks go to water to get away from the daily bs, but it is everywhere.
never let your guard down
 
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Mar 3, 2003
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Hunter 356 Grand Rivers
It pays to be armed when cruising. I've not been messed with, but I carry enough firepower to make a pirate pay a steep price. Have been cruising in that very area this guy went missing and felt very safe, but always have an eye out for the unusual.