I have come to the conclusion

Aug 19, 2021
508
Hunter 280 White House Cove Marina
Let me start with this 64 y/o full time construction worker. I still got it, just a little slower. I really have learned to work smarter not harder. Time to teach my trade not work in my trade. I know my bounce factor is not what it was in my 20s.

The one lesson I have really lean on is nothing new, I learned it in the boy scouts..... Be prepared. The second lesson is one I heard in a sermon a few years back, there is a plan B for everything except your salvation.

I remember the first time we practiced using emergency steering on a destroyer I was stationed on in the late 70s and early 80s. What a clown show that was. I also remember how important those lessons learned were when a loss of steering really happened a couple of months later at O-dark 30 in the morning. It was a long slow trip to PR to get pier side.

The group I sail with we practice man overboard, normally it is a hat the goes overboard but we have recovered everyone.

I have turned off my manual bilge pump and drained my fresh water tank into the bilge and used the emergency bilge pump. I still need to a rebuild kit for it.

Fire extinguishers, damage control kit, first aid kit, life jackets and strobes.

But I have never steered using the emergency tiller..... Never crossed my mind can I see the compass while using it.

I guess I am not as prepared as I thought...

God bless and safe sailing brothers and sisters.
 
Jun 14, 2010
2,355
Robertson & Caine 2017 Leopard 40 CT
Steering loss is very common, and most modern boat builders treat the emergency tiller as a “check the box” item to meet regulations, but don’t worry about whether it’s usable. A few years ago I crewed on a boat that lost its cable steering at 1AM about 40 nm from Cape Fear in 4-6 foot seas. We had 4 fairly fit crew and nobody could steer with the emergency tiller for more than 20 minutes at a time. We got in to the Cape Fear River and docked without assistance, but I wouldn’t want to try that again. It could not have been done single handed, even by a fit 20-year-old.

ps- I’m in the process of upgrading my cable-steered rotary-drive autopilot to an under deck ram drive that will steer direct to a tiller arm attached to the rudder post. I’m also investigating what spares I need to have aboard if I have a steering cable failure or roller chain link failure.
 
Mar 20, 2015
3,243
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
The Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines has decided in contract with their shore excursion companies (who affirm to get you back to the ship before it leaves, a key reason for booking with them)
Nah. That's what they tell you.
The cruise company often owns the excursion companies, and want to make sure most of your money goes to them one way or the other. They keep you using their official excursions with fear. Fear of arriving late. Fear of being ripped off. Fear of the boogyman. It's mainly BS.
If you organize them yourself, you often save money and have a better trip.
 
Mar 20, 2015
3,243
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
"the helicopter aircrew lowered their rescue swimmer to plant a datum marker buoy on the yacht so that its location could be tracked and shared with passing vessels. "

Anyone want to go get a free yacht ? Must bring tools, a few friends, and an extra compass.
 
Mar 20, 2015
3,243
C&C 30 Mk1 Winnipeg
But I have never steered using the emergency tiller..... Never crossed my mind can I see the compass while using it.

I guess I am not as prepared as I thought...
The "emergency" tiller on our current boat would be impossible to use in anything but mild conditions.

It was originally a tiller boat. They added wheel steering. The tiller, if reinstalled for emergency use, would hit the steering pedestal at any reasonably usable angle.
I have no idea what the previous owners were thinking. They clearly didn't test it. It also passed survey without comment.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
12,593
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I would prefer to be sailing rather than some less glorious pursuit or riding a hospital bed.
Right on brother! My fantasy "death" is that they will find my empty boat adrift at sea and wonder what happened to me....;):beer:
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,259
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Great movie Jon. A challenge getting old. Be it a seafarer or a land lubber.

Reading a new book. "One Second After" by Willian Forstchen

We all may want to become sailors.
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,593
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Sudden heart attack, while sitting under a tree with a beer and a book, gazing out at my boat.
Nice! I'm going to modify my original post on this topic....

Standing on my stern, with beer in hand, gazing at a beautiful sunset... sudden "widowmaker" heart attack ... fall overboard.... and they find my empty boat adrift at sea...:beer:
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,259
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Mar 30, 2013
700
Allied Seawind MK II 32' Oologah Lake, Oklahoma
Tyrion Lannister from Game of Thrones had a pretty good idea of how to die. NSFW so you'll have to look it up on Youtube yourself.
:D
 
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Aug 19, 2021
508
Hunter 280 White House Cove Marina
My fantasy "death"
It used to be massive heart attack during sex. I think it would traumatic for your partner tho'. Today I wouldn't wish that upon my wife.

Now I want to go like Enoch and Elijah who were assumed into heaven while still alive and not experiencing physical death.

Enoch walked with God: and he was no more; for God took him.

Elijah was walking with his son and suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.

I would be good with that.