For those of you who know me, I am still alive. I am the sales department here and it is difficult to be on the forum but once in a while you will see me. I have not seen hardly any questions on the new 25. For those of you who have seen the new 25, compare it to the 260. What would you like to see if you had the chance to buy. Please be specific and honest. No jokes or puns either. Your imput is always important.
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Hello Crazy
Yes Crazy I would look pretty closely at the 25 "if" it had an interiour like the 260. I find the look of the inside of the "new" yacht a bit agricultral.
Yes Crazy I would look pretty closely at the 25 "if" it had an interiour like the 260. I find the look of the inside of the "new" yacht a bit agricultral.
Doesn't compare too well...
First off: I don't have a clue what "agricultral" is supposed to mean. I do know that I liked the cockpit as well as the cabin seating, galley and the head of the 260 better than the new 25. I'd look for a used 260 before I'd look at a new 25. The 25 compares better with the 240 but even then I'd take a used 240 first. The salon seating is nicer, it would be easier to trailer and a lot cheaper. I sail an H23 on a Minnesota lake. When the time comes to buy a new sailboat, and it will, I'll still take a hard look at the 25 because of her draft, but the keel bothers me. I don't see how she can point very high. The 260 would have been and probably still is my logical upgrade for where I sail and would offer the ability to trailer her to larger waters more easily than the H23!
First off: I don't have a clue what "agricultral" is supposed to mean. I do know that I liked the cockpit as well as the cabin seating, galley and the head of the 260 better than the new 25. I'd look for a used 260 before I'd look at a new 25. The 25 compares better with the 240 but even then I'd take a used 240 first. The salon seating is nicer, it would be easier to trailer and a lot cheaper. I sail an H23 on a Minnesota lake. When the time comes to buy a new sailboat, and it will, I'll still take a hard look at the 25 because of her draft, but the keel bothers me. I don't see how she can point very high. The 260 would have been and probably still is my logical upgrade for where I sail and would offer the ability to trailer her to larger waters more easily than the H23!
Hello Dave
Good to see you posting again! I can only say that we consider the 260 to be the perfect boat for us. We feel very fortunate to have purchased one before they were discontinued. Interior features and space, headroom, swing keel, cockpit space and layout, and sailing features are all ideal. Anything else...
Good to see you posting again! I can only say that we consider the 260 to be the perfect boat for us. We feel very fortunate to have purchased one before they were discontinued. Interior features and space, headroom, swing keel, cockpit space and layout, and sailing features are all ideal. Anything else...
Me, Too
I saw the 25 at a show - liked it better than the 260 in almost every category, size, layout, looks, trailerability. But, I'm primarily a river sailer - the wind blows in only two directions where I live - up the river, and down the river. So, I would not count on getting home for dinner in the new 25 if the wind was against me. Why not at least offer the option of a swing keel, that would give the thing some windward performance? My two cents...
I saw the 25 at a show - liked it better than the 260 in almost every category, size, layout, looks, trailerability. But, I'm primarily a river sailer - the wind blows in only two directions where I live - up the river, and down the river. So, I would not count on getting home for dinner in the new 25 if the wind was against me. Why not at least offer the option of a swing keel, that would give the thing some windward performance? My two cents...
Not seen in person but . .
I've posted a couple of times but there aren't too many around yet for people to get an impression. Hunter just posted a photo gallery of the 25 and my impressions are: Veeeery nice exterior styling from all angles; The jib attaches higher than the drawings implied - almost a masthead rig; The interior is spartan (maybe a better term than agricultural) although the table and head door is an improvement; The mast looks pre-bent in the photos; The keel is probably too stubby. We sail in the Tennessee River lakes and the ability to go to windward especially in light air is very important. Much more so than the trailerability for a boat of that size. I agree with the other poster - offer a built in swing keel like the Precision or a moderate fin/wing at ~ 3 - 3.5 feet.
I've posted a couple of times but there aren't too many around yet for people to get an impression. Hunter just posted a photo gallery of the 25 and my impressions are: Veeeery nice exterior styling from all angles; The jib attaches higher than the drawings implied - almost a masthead rig; The interior is spartan (maybe a better term than agricultural) although the table and head door is an improvement; The mast looks pre-bent in the photos; The keel is probably too stubby. We sail in the Tennessee River lakes and the ability to go to windward especially in light air is very important. Much more so than the trailerability for a boat of that size. I agree with the other poster - offer a built in swing keel like the Precision or a moderate fin/wing at ~ 3 - 3.5 feet.
Hey again Dave
Hi Dave, I have seen the new 25 and have written about it on here a couple months ago but will go over my opinion again quickly. I think the new 25 is great, I am 6'6" and 200 lbs. The cocpit is large enough for me to lay down on and stretch my legs out while sitting. None of the fiberglass bounced while I walked around on the deck, it felt very solid. I like the stub keel, there is a lot of surface area on the new keel I and belive that it may sail better than it looks in pictures. I like the stainless steel deck hardware and the removeable insert in the cabin for maintenance or replacement of all the hardware. I hope they dont try to drop prices by adding cheap plastic hardware. Those of us who keep our boats on moorings appreciate the Stainless equipment. One thing I would change or improve is the motor mount. The only way to keep the motor out of the water is to lean the motor foward. Most of my expirence with motor is that, one, they dont lean foward very far and, two, even if they do that motor mount still sits very close to the water line. Im not crazy about my lower unit always splashing in the water. As for the price, I think its great. Look at the Precision 23 for example, this boat with just a trailer and roller furling cost 30K (this is before freight and dealer prep with no motor and any other bells or whistles). Its a smaller boat with comparable quality at best.
Hi Dave, I have seen the new 25 and have written about it on here a couple months ago but will go over my opinion again quickly. I think the new 25 is great, I am 6'6" and 200 lbs. The cocpit is large enough for me to lay down on and stretch my legs out while sitting. None of the fiberglass bounced while I walked around on the deck, it felt very solid. I like the stub keel, there is a lot of surface area on the new keel I and belive that it may sail better than it looks in pictures. I like the stainless steel deck hardware and the removeable insert in the cabin for maintenance or replacement of all the hardware. I hope they dont try to drop prices by adding cheap plastic hardware. Those of us who keep our boats on moorings appreciate the Stainless equipment. One thing I would change or improve is the motor mount. The only way to keep the motor out of the water is to lean the motor foward. Most of my expirence with motor is that, one, they dont lean foward very far and, two, even if they do that motor mount still sits very close to the water line. Im not crazy about my lower unit always splashing in the water. As for the price, I think its great. Look at the Precision 23 for example, this boat with just a trailer and roller furling cost 30K (this is before freight and dealer prep with no motor and any other bells or whistles). Its a smaller boat with comparable quality at best.
my vote goes to the 260
We like the look and feel of the 260 cabin much better. I would be willing to give the fixed keel a try but it sure is nice to be able to raise the swing keel when needed.
We like the look and feel of the 260 cabin much better. I would be willing to give the fixed keel a try but it sure is nice to be able to raise the swing keel when needed.
Too Bad
All the 260 needed to be perfect was a better table. I really think they cheaped out by not adding a centerboard to the 25 too.
All the 260 needed to be perfect was a better table. I really think they cheaped out by not adding a centerboard to the 25 too.
On the other hand
The Hunter 27 looks like a dream. I really like the H216 too. I think Hunter could make something more like the an improved 212 to fill the gap now that the H240 and 260 are gone. Maybe they could call it the 226 and make it from the ACP material with a keel just like the 216?
The Hunter 27 looks like a dream. I really like the H216 too. I think Hunter could make something more like the an improved 212 to fill the gap now that the H240 and 260 are gone. Maybe they could call it the 226 and make it from the ACP material with a keel just like the 216?
25 vs. 260
Is it really fair to compare the new 25 to the 260? It would seem that the new 25 shares a lot more with the 23.5 / 240 than with the 26 / 260. My wife and I had a good chance to go through a 25 at the Chicago show. We carefully looked inside and out. We were disappointed. Considering the keel design, I'm not sure where this design would belong. Would Hunter be better off considering a light swing centerboard like an O'Day 25 rather than the fixed stub of the 25? As a reference, we have a 1984 Hunter 25.5. We are looking for the next step up.
Is it really fair to compare the new 25 to the 260? It would seem that the new 25 shares a lot more with the 23.5 / 240 than with the 26 / 260. My wife and I had a good chance to go through a 25 at the Chicago show. We carefully looked inside and out. We were disappointed. Considering the keel design, I'm not sure where this design would belong. Would Hunter be better off considering a light swing centerboard like an O'Day 25 rather than the fixed stub of the 25? As a reference, we have a 1984 Hunter 25.5. We are looking for the next step up.
CE Classifications
Found this on "another" site. The H25 is rated a "D" International Marine Certification Institute Recreational Craft Directive 94/35/CE Boat design categories as defined by Institute Recreational Craft: Design Category Wind Force Beaufort Scale (knots) Significant Wave Height in meters (feet) A - "Ocean" exceeding 8 (over 40 kts.) exceeding 4 (over 13 ft.) B - "Offshore" up to and including 8 (34-40 kts.) up to and including 4 (13 ft.) C - "Inshore" up to and including 6 (22-27 kts.) up to and including 2 (6.5 ft.) D - "Sheltered waters" up to and including 4 (11-16 kts.) up to and including 0.5 (1.5 ft.)
Found this on "another" site. The H25 is rated a "D" International Marine Certification Institute Recreational Craft Directive 94/35/CE Boat design categories as defined by Institute Recreational Craft: Design Category Wind Force Beaufort Scale (knots) Significant Wave Height in meters (feet) A - "Ocean" exceeding 8 (over 40 kts.) exceeding 4 (over 13 ft.) B - "Offshore" up to and including 8 (34-40 kts.) up to and including 4 (13 ft.) C - "Inshore" up to and including 6 (22-27 kts.) up to and including 2 (6.5 ft.) D - "Sheltered waters" up to and including 4 (11-16 kts.) up to and including 0.5 (1.5 ft.)
Dave I need your help
Dave, I am the guy with the hunter212 that had and has reappeared crack above the starboard window. I would like for you to tell me how to cut the window out with fishing line and the caulk to use to re-seat the window. ibsailin@netscape.com Thank you very much.,
Dave, I am the guy with the hunter212 that had and has reappeared crack above the starboard window. I would like for you to tell me how to cut the window out with fishing line and the caulk to use to re-seat the window. ibsailin@netscape.com Thank you very much.,
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