Hunter Keeling?
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By and large the recent Hunter sailboats like to be sailed up-right...some heeling but the ones I've sailed seem to go fast standing up with only a slight heel. The keel is that lead (or iron) part of the boat on the bottom which keeps you from heeling too much.
All boats (all brands) generally like to be sailed in an up-right position. However as your boat heels over it spills air so you won't go as fast as you could. But I agree at times heeling over and running the water into the cockpit can be a bit of fun. Laying the boat on its side is called broaching. Not fun.
All boats (all brands) generally like to be sailed in an up-right position. However as your boat heels over it spills air so you won't go as fast as you could. But I agree at times heeling over and running the water into the cockpit can be a bit of fun. Laying the boat on its side is called broaching. Not fun.
I think les, you may be mistaken on the "as your boat heels over it spills air so you won't go as fast"....I would also suggest that only cats like to be sailed up-right, monohulls are designed to sail on the angle...see below, or a good reference on sailing/air flow over a wing.
as the boat heels, you lengthen the water line/reduce the wetted surface and the boat actually speeds up for a given amount of sail up. Hunter also suggests a heel angle of 8-13% for best sailing, as do most other builders.
After a certain point, all sailboats spill the wind and that is called a roundup..part of the design as well
as the boat heels, you lengthen the water line/reduce the wetted surface and the boat actually speeds up for a given amount of sail up. Hunter also suggests a heel angle of 8-13% for best sailing, as do most other builders.
After a certain point, all sailboats spill the wind and that is called a roundup..part of the design as well
You were doing great until this...
Les was 100% correct that as the boat heels over (too much) it starts to spill the air and looses speed, however this does not happen untill after the boat has first picked up speed, partly as a result of what you posted, partly just because of the additional power available. most boats start to loose efficency around 20 deg of heel, anything more than that performance starts to suffer quite a bit. Many people will also tell you that their boats perform the best around 15 deg of heel, which is an indication that for the given conditions they have the appropriate sail plan aloft, and properly trimmed.
As to the original question, Hunters do not heel anymore than any other boat would of similar design. It depends on which model Hunter you are comareing against what compareabe sized competition. Generally a Hunter and a Catalina of the same size will have similar characteristics as they are usually similarly designed boats, but if you comapre a Hunter to a Island Packet of the same size, one will feel like you are standing on a boat, the other more like you are standing on an island. Drasticly different boat designs, and equally different performance and handleing characteristics.
a roundup is when the main overpowers the genoa, and the rudder is no longer able to compensate, and the boat turns 'round and points up it the wind. Normally this is a farily dramatic happening as the boat is often going to heeled (not keeled) over around 45 deg or more when this happens.
Les was 100% correct that as the boat heels over (too much) it starts to spill the air and looses speed, however this does not happen untill after the boat has first picked up speed, partly as a result of what you posted, partly just because of the additional power available. most boats start to loose efficency around 20 deg of heel, anything more than that performance starts to suffer quite a bit. Many people will also tell you that their boats perform the best around 15 deg of heel, which is an indication that for the given conditions they have the appropriate sail plan aloft, and properly trimmed.
As to the original question, Hunters do not heel anymore than any other boat would of similar design. It depends on which model Hunter you are comareing against what compareabe sized competition. Generally a Hunter and a Catalina of the same size will have similar characteristics as they are usually similarly designed boats, but if you comapre a Hunter to a Island Packet of the same size, one will feel like you are standing on a boat, the other more like you are standing on an island. Drasticly different boat designs, and equally different performance and handleing characteristics.
Heeling...
For what it's worth, the C&C 32 I just raced on likes to sail best at a heeling angle of about 10*, about the same as my shoal draft H34.
For what it's worth, the C&C 32 I just raced on likes to sail best at a heeling angle of about 10*, about the same as my shoal draft H34.
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