OK I have stayed silent for years. Most of these production boats have performance versions within the brand. I crewed on 38s5 (Fusee') which some of you racers may have encountered in the past. Fusee' crushed the fleet more often than I can remember. These "Benne" First 367,38s5 and many others are not the same as Beneteau Oceanis . Much like my Legend 40.5 compared to the newer Hunter of similar length but B/R rig and some with in mast furling as well. Not even the same boat. I am going to say with confidence that if there is another 20,000 pound racer/cruiser with a 108/104 PHRF that is interested in coming up to "windy lane" Santa Barbara Channel and convincing me and my crew that Hunters are inferior to Bennes,Jennys,Cats and all the other SIMILAR boats , bring it. Bring some extra winch handles Jackdaw lol because if its blowin' you might be supprised.