Hunter 34 - how big are these issues?

Apr 4, 2024
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Alan Wright Marauder 8.4 Auckland
Hi All,
Back in June I looked at a mid 80s Hunter 34, in New Zealand, which is still on the market, and am considering re-visiting.
She's a bit rough, if I'm honest: original Yanmar engine, a horror story of rust and leaking fluids, water pump and exhaust elbow likely both leak (but runs ok), stern gland looks likely to be leaking, gearbox that sometimes vibrates when rev'd quickly, prop shaft coupling flange heavily rusted, electrical spaghetti, flat batteries (house looked very old), mouldy wall carpet and sealant beads in places, bilge full of unmentionable fluids (hidden bilge supposedly opened up already - didn't want to verify!), cabin sole covered in EVA faux teak so guess underneath looked even worse, and no working fridge (just portable peltier units that need immediate removal). Then outside, heavily oxidized gel coat, no working lights in mast, shot clears on dodger, all canvas nearing end of life, main has a hole probably from rubbing on something (patched before), jib has leach chord pocket worn open, both sails below average condition, standing rigging has not been replaced in current owners time, and history unknown, also a couple of soft spots on the deck, adjacent to hatches that have already been replaced in recent years.

But the biggest concerns are the chain plates, and the usual compression post. Closely followed by the unknown cost of doing the standing rigging on this relatively complex B&R setup.

The steel chain plates are clearly rusty, at least what little can be viewed from the small aperture in the fibreglass that the stainless rod passes through. Small flakes could be picked off. But the rod is also rusted for a couple of inches up from the chainplate. Both sides are similar. Please see photo.
I've read about a couple of dismastings on these boats. Would anyone with this unfortunate experience say these chainplates have potential for imminent failure? I wonder if anyone has attempted a temporary (read quick with limited tools) repair? I would need to do something to make it safe for the 120NM delivery, till it could be properly addressed back home.

The compression post is starting to rot at the top, mainly on the aft port corner. The horizontal beam is not showing signs of compressing yet, but there was one tiny hairline crack in the gelcoat. Not sure what the deal is with the stainless plate wedged between the post and the beam? Viewed from aft the plate had an awkward tilt to it - port side a little lower than starboard. I suspect with was a bit of a bodge fix to buy some time for the compression post. Interested to hear what others might know?

So clearly a lot of work to would be required (some jobs requiring immediate attention), and a considerable amount of money to be spent to bring it up to a reasonable (& safe) standard. Also, I have yet to inspect below the water line.
Owner's current asking price is unrealistic in my opinion, but that's something I need to discuss further when I figure out my appetite for the work required.
Would be very interested to hear others thoughts/experience on any of the above, and if there's anything else I should look out for?
 

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Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Hey, Alan.. Many dollars will be required to get that old girl back into safe, usable condition. The chain plate and tie rod system is probably the most dangerous part from what little I can see. There will be thread root corrosion at the base of the chainplate tie rod which will let go without warning.. Unless you are an accomplished/skillful "boat fixer" and can get this old girl for an extremely reduced price, I'd advise walking away from that one.. She can be saved but there is a lot of labor and dollars between here and there!
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,210
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
:plus: With @kloudie1. Rarely are free boats free. Takes dedication and a passion to rebuild a boat that has been neglected. No sailing while going through the experience.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,011
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
I'm not going to question your mental processes on why your would want to buy this neglected wreck. Just give your head a good shake and it will be much clearer.

Take the price of the boat which you "think" you can get it for, add on about $20K (assuming you do every last stitch of work yourself) and look for a boat in that price range. Even if you finance it, you would still be financially better off.

The work you'll be doing will be both hopeless and unrewarding. In most cases, complete replacement of the defective parts will be your only option.

original Yanmar engine, a horror story of rust and leaking fluids, water pump and exhaust elbow likely both leak
We can be sure the engine never had the oil changed so maybe we want to bump up (by a substantial amount) that previously mentioned $20k.

Do yourself a favour and purge this horror story from your mind and get on with the practical purchase of a boat.
 
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Oct 6, 2007
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Hunter H30 1982 Chicago IL
….a bit rough? A project boat in need of TLC, but with the major elements sound is one thing. This pour boat has major problems; engine, compression post, chain plates, and likely many others. Everything has been neglected. I see years of work before you can sail it and will cost several times your worst case estimate. Like everyone else said, walk away from this one.
 
Oct 19, 2017
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O'Day 19 Littleton, NH
Welcome to the best sailing forum on the Net. By the sounds of it, you have little experience with engines. I'm only guessing because the "horror story of rust and leaky fluids" didn't send you running for the rail like some seasick lubber. Your descriptions just went downhill from there.

This would be a much better deal to investigate, if it's still on the market.
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1980-cutter-orchard-39-9307870/
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1980 Cutter Orchard 39 | 39ft
Opua, New Zealand
$108,000 (US$63,813).

It's in the neighborhood, won't cost you the emergency repairs and delivery, etc.

Be patient, keep looking, it will pay off.

Not to get personal, but if you are married, that's another aspect of your life that will go much smoother with a better boat.

I hope for you, great success and luck in your endeavor. Keep us posted.

-Will
 
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Apr 4, 2024
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Alan Wright Marauder 8.4 Auckland
Thank Claude, yeah agree the chainplate rod is most dangerous issue.
One of those issues that seems impossible to assess without an 'invasive' inspection. Could be an interesting one to broach with the seller..
I definitely fall in to the "boat fixer" classification. :) Nothing here that is beyond my skills to repair/replace.
I've turned my hand to woodwork, fibre-glassing, plumbing, electrical and engine repairs (including a rebuild) over my 3 boats, and 25 years of ownership.
Electrical/Electronics is my line of work, so no dramas there.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Definitely helped cool my interest somewhat, though maybe not quite the boat model specific insights I'd hoped for. Will see where things are at in the new year, but for now enjoy my current boat, splashing shortly with new paint job.
 
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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
When selecting my boat, it helped to define what I wanted to do with the boat. Where and how I wanted to sail, anchor, explore. My boat is a compromise. Many of the listed desires, a few compromises. This helped to guide my actions when faced with the challenge... Should I repair or scrap the boat.

When you find the right boat for where and how you want to sail, the issues will all be little things that you can easily deal with.
 
Dec 14, 2003
1,412
Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
While I do agree with Kloudie and the others about running away from this old girl, I have another perspective in mind: you have had 3 boats which you worked on exhaustively. By your own admission you are a ''boat fixer''. So if you want to buy yourself what is definitely a ''project boat'', and if you get the current owner to accept a real lowball price, then don't sail it the 120 nm home but drop the mast and have it transported ! You can then work on it for as long as it takes to bring her back to a state where she is safe to sail. But forget the idea of sailing anytime soon. And it's OK based on your frame of mind: some folks like working and tinkering on boats more than sailing them. If indeed you are one of those guys, it might work for you ! Good luck with the final decision.
 
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