Hunter 27 rudder repair

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emkay

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May 6, 2008
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Hunter 27 Buffalo
Not completely finished, but the hard part is done, I ran out of epoxy so I figured I'll post pics now. All I have left is to fair, sand, and barrier coat it. I'll probably do that when I do the entire boat. Anyway, on to the pics...

Step one! Remove rudder. There is a bolt through the top of the post, remove it. Remove the one bolt that goes through the steering idler into the rudder, loosen the 4 bolts that clamp the idler to the post, and slide it out.


Scrape it to see just how badly it's cracked


Now this part may have been unnecessary, I could have just drilled some small holes and set it in front of my heater, instead I tried to de-skin it. The wet area wasn't that bad, pretty much just in the opened area


This is the heaviest foam I could find, 16lb foam. That means it weighs 16lbs per cubic foot. These two cans only make 1/4 cu/ft of foam, so that gives you an idea just how dense it is. Foss Foam, the OEM manufacturer of Hunter rudders uses 20lb foam. In either case, it is the main structural component of the rudder, the glass is there just to keep out the water it would seem.


Mix mix mix


pour into all low spots...


It does not expand very much, a lot less than the stuff we use to make race car seats...


mix pour, mix pour, do it while the first layer is still tacky and it will bond. It gets really warm and cures really fast...


Ok, that's enough pouring, I could have gone more but I was worried about how difficult it would be to sand...


...It wasn't difficult to sand :D but it did make a huge mess, I attacked it with an angle grinder first, the stuff is as hard as a rock, my basement is covered in foam particles, along with all the sawdust left over from my kitchen


Mark the high spots by running a straightedge over the foam, sand some more this stuff sands very easily...


Not bad eh?


Fairing compound, applied with the same straightedge, only had to do 2 coats...


Sand, fair, sand...


And cover it with glass. This is one layer of 10oz glass. I'll add another layer of thin glass and fair, sand, barrier coat, done.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Thanks, your pictorial makes me glad I let the pros at Sailcraft in Oriental do mine. That must have been some mess from all that sanding and fairing. The results are really worth the effort though. Good job.
 

Manny

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Oct 5, 2006
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Hunter 82? 37 Cutter Wherever the wind takes me
Lots of Questions...

Maybe I missed it in one of your previous posts but how did you know it was cracked? Was it fairly visible or did you find it by accident?
Do you know what may have caused the crack? Freeze damage? Impact?
How in the world did you remove the top bolt in the rudder post (the one through the bearing)? I can only access the bolt head, not the nut...
I'm trying to get an idea of the internals from the pictures, is that square tube inline with the rudder post or welded rearward of the post?
How did you create the round holes in the foam, just a hole saw?

Oh yeah, great job! Nice mast step in the last picture!

Thanks,

Manny
 

emkay

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May 6, 2008
70
Hunter 27 Buffalo
There were visible cracks in it, 2 large ones, and a hundred small ones (only visible when I removed the bottom paint) The cracks were caused by water freezing in it.

The bolt was difficult but it's not very tight, I used vicegrips to grab the edge of the nut, and another pair to turn the bolt through the top of the rudder. It wasn't very tight, if it was too tight I was just going to cut it in half.

The square tube is welded to the inside of the post, then there are thick straps that come off it in a V shape that attach to the rod
 
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