Hunter 27 revival post #5 3/3/2010

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emkay

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May 6, 2008
70
Hunter 27 Buffalo
Well, quite a lot has been done the last few weeks, but it still feels like I'm not getting very far, I am about done with the electrical. The bilge pump works, the fancy new LED nav lights work, everything else electrical works, I even cranked the engine over yesterday (first time!) Of course the starting battery is toast, it sat for 2 years, I can charge it to 12.6v but a load test shows very little capacity, it worked good enough for me to test everything though, and since I have all the AC rewired and working, I can run the battery charger and have lights in the cabin! I also have a little $20 electric heater, it has two settings, 700w and 1500w, the 700w setting warms the cabin from say 30 degrees to a comfortable 55 in about 10 minutes. It is not that effective when it's 15 degrees out but luckily those days are past us this year. New house bank is on the float charger in my basement (two group 31's, Interstate MHD's I get them from work CHEAP) so now I still need a starting battery. And I need to rewire the mast.

My plan was to start on the mechanical systems after the electrical was done, and yesterday I did just that. I fixed the steering! The steering works like this (experienced sailors can skip this part, this is for my family and friends) at the wheel there is a sprocket attached to a chain, the chain turns with the wheel, attached to both ends of the chain there is a cable, it rides on pulleys under the cockpit floor. Those pulleys change the direction of the cable from vertical to horozontal, the cables then go to a large idler attached to the rudder post.



The problem with my boat is the bolts that hold the ilders in their position (they are adjustable) fell off, so they were just flapping around and the cables fell off the pulleys. So I had to stick my head down the hatch and hang upside down while I put new nuts on the bolts, reroute the cable, climb out of that hatch and squeeze into the other one, attempt to route the cables on to the big idler, feel the cable fall off the pulleys (I can't see the pulleys from here) wiggle out, go into the other hatch, repeat until I get it right. Then I had to tighten the steering, then test it for binding (it did) loosen the bolts and get the pulleys to be in line with the cable, retighten, and check again. Now it works beautifully. All that sounded hard and time consuming, but it all took about an hour at the cost of a headache from hanging upside down for too long.

Next task is to fix the leaky fuel return lines. Of course they are braided, and they have compression fittings....That haven't been made in 30 years. So I asked the mechanic at the yard if they can make new ones, he said nope, but you can cut the flange off, there is a barb underneath that you can attach new lines to. I immediately understood what he's saying, it's like an air line or flexible brake lines (an air line you can fix that way, a brake line you cannot! So don't try it at home). Of course the fuel lines are tiny, 3/16" ID, and both sail supply stores don't have them, West Marine never heard of them despite the fact they are on their website, so I ordered those, that will be an easy fix.

I also installed a new bilge pump, a fully automatic kind but I bought it not knowing how it works, it runs every 2.5 minutes and checks for water, that will get super annoying real quick so I think I'll still use a float switch.

Next on the list is a new Cutlass bearing and repack my shaft.

Today's project, and tomorrows (going skiing!!!)



Closeup of the lines in question, I cut one to get an exact ID measurement. They are tiny, but so is the engine :)



Almost finished wiring, the AC is different now, I added two short bussbars for neutral and ground. Next year I'm getting 2 separate panels, one for AC, one for DC. I don't like them both on the same panel.

 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Busy guy! Never heard of a bilge pump that cycled on a timer. But you say it can be converted to use a float switch? Seems like there are some panels in your boat that you have not unscrewed yet. It is always hard to work on the steering(cable gets redirected by sheaves and goes to a radial wheel) but not that hard. Doesn't the H27 have a quarterberth with a side panel that opens the space behind the engine?
 

emkay

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May 6, 2008
70
Hunter 27 Buffalo
I think it does, but the space seems very narrow, like less than 6" back by the steering. I have not removed that panel yet, it doesn't look easy to remove. But maybe I should try it out, maybe find the nuts in the bilge :)
 
Nov 8, 2007
1,594
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
The Quarterberth Panel Comes Out

You are right, it's not very easy, but it does come out, and it's better to learn how to do it earlier rather than later, because the access to steering, exhaust, cockpit drains, transmission, and shaft log is so much better.

Keep up the good work!
 

emkay

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May 6, 2008
70
Hunter 27 Buffalo
Steering, exhaust, and shaft log maybe, but the cockpit drains are right there under the aft hatch. Mine has a T-shaped cockpit, it's a little different than yours. That panel doesn't go back as far either.

This was back in January, but there is the idler, and the cockpit drains. They gotta go too, what is that? Vacuum hose? The starboard side wasn't even attached, just resting there, still draining though :) Also the starboard drain rubs against the idler.

 

Manny

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Oct 5, 2006
983
Hunter 82? 37 Cutter Wherever the wind takes me
The panel from the quaterberth is removable????? I tried for a long time but couldn't figure out how it comes out, so I ended up cutting a large hole with a jigsaw so I could tighten the pedestal nuts. I then made a nice wood panel that screws in place to cover the hole. The back panel does come out quite easily though if needed.

Emkay, your diagram of the steering is pretty good but the steering cables actually cross, otherwise the steering is reversed! I also recognize those fuel lines, I guess you have the renault? Do you mind posting the link to the fuel lines you ordered? I need to replace mine and thought of doing the same with the flanges. You mentioned you need a starter battery, with two group 31's there's no need for a dedicated starter battery (unless you are looking for redundancy). I often thought about installing the cycling bilge pump but I would guess it would draw down the battery after a while.

Great job and keep the posts coming.

Manny
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Manny and Emkay, I wonder if that quarterberth panel has something to do with the year of the boat? My first year with my '79 H37C I was having a terrible time with simple tasks like stuffing box work, tranny oil checks, etc. Other H37C owners couldn't understand why. Turns out that their later model boats had access from the quarterberth where the '79 did not. From their description I was able to make mine like theirs. Opens up the whole port side of the engine room.
 
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