I bought a 1983 Hunter 22 this year and had a good summer on the water. I followed the suggestions in these forums for tensioning the rigging, and adding some bend to the mast. However, the mast bends forward rather than toward the stern. The forestay and backstay are close to the lengths in the manual that has been posted. I tried adding an extender to the mainstay, effectively relieving it of all tension, and the mast still bent forward. Do I need to shorten the backstay to force more rake? I realize that I'd likely have to lengthen the mainstay as well. Any suggestions would be welcome.
Hunter 22 Rigging
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What is a "mainstay"? Rake is different than mast bend. To rake the mast you need to add more length to forestay. Set your rake first, that's the fore and aft setting.... I have never used a tension gauge on stays... just shrouds.. because the shrouds keep the mast straight. Anyway.. after you've set the rake, get the shrouds set to center and straighten the mast.... once it's even you can set tension... always matching the adjustment on one side with the other. Once you have shrouds tuned you can use the backstay(along with the other controls particular to your boat) to impart bend in the mast for sail trimming needs.... You can impart "pre bend" in the mast by adjusting the lowers... check the owner's manual.
If you are a trailer sailor... it helps to have settings marked on you rigging. Using quick release connectors can make it simpler to retain the same settings for each session.
If you are a trailer sailor... it helps to have settings marked on you rigging. Using quick release connectors can make it simpler to retain the same settings for each session.
Thanks for the thorough response, Joe. Sorry, I meant "forestay", (distracted watching - laughing, crying, - the presidential debate!). I've struggled with measuring/estimating the rake because my boat is on a trailer most of the time, and it isn't all that level. I've got some ideas and will give them a try. Great suggestion for the quick release connectors, as getting from the trailer to the water takes way too long! Thanks again.
Gary,
As a former dealer, let me chime in. There really was no real to say owners manual on this boat and it was generic. The mast on that boat should never have any forward prebend. I would suggest a slight prebend aft but before we go any further, I need to ask about the distance of the studs in the turnbuckle body. Are they all the way screwed in or not. If a lot, how much? The reason I am asking is the age of the boat since the last I think that boat was produced was back in 1984/1985 which would make that boat 30 plus years ago and there is no mention if that rigging has been replaced or not. Can you take a photo of the turnbuckle bodies with mast of course up? Then I will tell you what I would have done if you want my suggestion.
As for the debates, the very first unpresidential issue with both candidates, they did not shake hands and that alone they are not worthy to be my President of the United States of America. However, Trump made a point about NAFTA which as a business man, I was against remembering what my parents and grandparents talked about the Great Depression and WWII. I will not go into friends but can assure you they all are turning in their graves. A good example is Gen. George C. Marshal who bounced me on his knee as a child and that alone opened a lot of doors.
Yes, Bill Clinton signed into law NAFTA, but Trump failed to say it was a Democratic and Republican Congress who approved that bill for Clinton's signature thinking global economy was the way to go. In the end, manufacturing along with jobs, technology, etc... left the country and you can go to many manufacturing towns and cities to see how desolate they have become. There is an old saying, A Country Boy Can Survive. With the country's debt load and manufacturing, jobs, technology, education, medical research and so forth have left, when the global economy sputters coming to a complete halt, this country will not survive with many loosing jobs for those working, homes, businesses, Retirment/401 K and much more. There are many proposals but they fall short of what really needs to be done.
In 1940/1941, this country was an isolationist country recovering slowly from the Great Depression taking care of it's own with war waging in Europe and the Pacific as we were self resilient and reliant. We had no standing military other than the naval fleet at Pearl Harbor with three aircraft carries. Any military strategian will tell you we could not have won a one front war let alone a two front war. Yet we won WWII.
Admiral Yamamoto who graduated from Harvard knew the American people realizing if he did not destroy the entire fleet at Pearl to include the aircraft carriers, it would be a matter of time when Japan would loose the war vs. suing for peace if they had been destroyed. He realized a very important fact which so many in this country have forgotten which no longer can be said given the loss of manufacturing, technology, etc., WE WERE A SLEEPING INDUSTRIAL GIANT AWAITING TO BE AWAKENED and given the fact we were resilient and reliant on ourselves to include our fortitude, we won WWII becoming the leaders of the industrialized world.
It is my belief we can survive what will become inevitable, a world wide melt down if we go back and become an isolationist country relying on ourselves vs. global as we can and are a resilient nation only if we start now with the right person.
Neither candidate not only are worthy but have no clue what it will take to turn the United States around. Regardless of race, color, creed, gender or political party, there are others to include myself who can do a better job running the United States of America. I just wish there was a way to get someone else into the White House. The last President whom I had the pleasure of meeting that did this of course was Reagan.
A country who can rely on itself can be resilient in a global melt down. In that sense, this country will survive like a country boy can survive.
Folks, I could no longer be quiet and wish this could go viral.
Dave Condon
As a former dealer, let me chime in. There really was no real to say owners manual on this boat and it was generic. The mast on that boat should never have any forward prebend. I would suggest a slight prebend aft but before we go any further, I need to ask about the distance of the studs in the turnbuckle body. Are they all the way screwed in or not. If a lot, how much? The reason I am asking is the age of the boat since the last I think that boat was produced was back in 1984/1985 which would make that boat 30 plus years ago and there is no mention if that rigging has been replaced or not. Can you take a photo of the turnbuckle bodies with mast of course up? Then I will tell you what I would have done if you want my suggestion.
As for the debates, the very first unpresidential issue with both candidates, they did not shake hands and that alone they are not worthy to be my President of the United States of America. However, Trump made a point about NAFTA which as a business man, I was against remembering what my parents and grandparents talked about the Great Depression and WWII. I will not go into friends but can assure you they all are turning in their graves. A good example is Gen. George C. Marshal who bounced me on his knee as a child and that alone opened a lot of doors.
Yes, Bill Clinton signed into law NAFTA, but Trump failed to say it was a Democratic and Republican Congress who approved that bill for Clinton's signature thinking global economy was the way to go. In the end, manufacturing along with jobs, technology, etc... left the country and you can go to many manufacturing towns and cities to see how desolate they have become. There is an old saying, A Country Boy Can Survive. With the country's debt load and manufacturing, jobs, technology, education, medical research and so forth have left, when the global economy sputters coming to a complete halt, this country will not survive with many loosing jobs for those working, homes, businesses, Retirment/401 K and much more. There are many proposals but they fall short of what really needs to be done.
In 1940/1941, this country was an isolationist country recovering slowly from the Great Depression taking care of it's own with war waging in Europe and the Pacific as we were self resilient and reliant. We had no standing military other than the naval fleet at Pearl Harbor with three aircraft carries. Any military strategian will tell you we could not have won a one front war let alone a two front war. Yet we won WWII.
Admiral Yamamoto who graduated from Harvard knew the American people realizing if he did not destroy the entire fleet at Pearl to include the aircraft carriers, it would be a matter of time when Japan would loose the war vs. suing for peace if they had been destroyed. He realized a very important fact which so many in this country have forgotten which no longer can be said given the loss of manufacturing, technology, etc., WE WERE A SLEEPING INDUSTRIAL GIANT AWAITING TO BE AWAKENED and given the fact we were resilient and reliant on ourselves to include our fortitude, we won WWII becoming the leaders of the industrialized world.
It is my belief we can survive what will become inevitable, a world wide melt down if we go back and become an isolationist country relying on ourselves vs. global as we can and are a resilient nation only if we start now with the right person.
Neither candidate not only are worthy but have no clue what it will take to turn the United States around. Regardless of race, color, creed, gender or political party, there are others to include myself who can do a better job running the United States of America. I just wish there was a way to get someone else into the White House. The last President whom I had the pleasure of meeting that did this of course was Reagan.
A country who can rely on itself can be resilient in a global melt down. In that sense, this country will survive like a country boy can survive.
Folks, I could no longer be quiet and wish this could go viral.
Dave Condon
Thanks for the message Dave. Having seen your posts on these forums, I was hoping that you would offer some advice. I can tell you that the backstay turnbuckle studs are turned in all the way, making the backstay as short as possible. The mainstay studs are maybe half way turned in typically. I don't know about any history prior to the previous owner, so I don't know if the rigging was ever changed. The previous owner did a great job refinishing the interior woodwork, but I don't think he was much of a sailor. The jib winches didn't work, and he said he never needed them. I cleaned out the gunk, got them working, and have had to use them almost every time out this summer. The rigging looks decent - no rust, no breaks in the wires, but I was wondering if some of the lines could have stretched over time. I'm fairly close to RiggingOnly and D&R Marine, both of whom can make/modify rigging, so if that is in the cards, I have easy access to suppliers.
I have the boat in my yard now, so I'll raise the mast when I get a chance and take some pictures for you. They're calling for some high winds in my area all weekend, so it might take me a little while to get to it. Let me know where to send them. Thanks again.
I have the boat in my yard now, so I'll raise the mast when I get a chance and take some pictures for you. They're calling for some high winds in my area all weekend, so it might take me a little while to get to it. Let me know where to send them. Thanks again.
What about the forestay turnbuckle body. FYI the side wires are referred to as shrouds with the long one as the upper shroud and the smaller one lower shroud.
If you see any of the wires cut even one strand or broken, replace. If any corrosion on the crimped portion of the stud, then it may be time to replace.
Do you want me to call and if so, send me a PM and I will call.
If you see any of the wires cut even one strand or broken, replace. If any corrosion on the crimped portion of the stud, then it may be time to replace.
Do you want me to call and if so, send me a PM and I will call.