On a previous post I believe someone mentioned "ball bearings" in the keel/axle assembly. Did the original Hunter 22 swing keel actually have a set of ball bearings? This would definitely make sense. I just had my axle shear causing a leak around the four through-the-hull bolts which caused the boat to sink. Bearings in the axle assembly would probably have prevented this. Obviously the previous ower took a shorter and less reliable fix when repairing the keel.
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bigger than you would think
I re-glasses mine last year, i think it was around 3 inches in diamater, it was pretty big, reglassed it, and painted it up, it came out looking really good.
I re-glasses mine last year, i think it was around 3 inches in diamater, it was pretty big, reglassed it, and painted it up, it came out looking really good.
Bushing purchase
This is a question for both John and Mike. I repaired my bushing a few years ago by installing 1/2 inch copper pipe with marine tex. The repair has held up fine, but I'm curious about where you guys got the nylon bushing from. The brass bushing sounds even better, so where does one go to procure these parts. Thanks in advance, Todd
This is a question for both John and Mike. I repaired my bushing a few years ago by installing 1/2 inch copper pipe with marine tex. The repair has held up fine, but I'm curious about where you guys got the nylon bushing from. The brass bushing sounds even better, so where does one go to procure these parts. Thanks in advance, Todd
Making a bushing
Gee OK Mike, the inside nylon block is round, for some reason I though it was square. The system of just replacing the inside bushing really is a slick idea. As to where to get one, I went to a machine shop took my old one and had it made on a lathe. (Really had it made at work, a goverment job for sure.) Not any harder to make it out of brass than nylon so why not go first class? I did the copper pipe thing once too. It lasted maybe 5 years. But I can tell you the blass bushing is for ever!
Gee OK Mike, the inside nylon block is round, for some reason I though it was square. The system of just replacing the inside bushing really is a slick idea. As to where to get one, I went to a machine shop took my old one and had it made on a lathe. (Really had it made at work, a goverment job for sure.) Not any harder to make it out of brass than nylon so why not go first class? I did the copper pipe thing once too. It lasted maybe 5 years. But I can tell you the blass bushing is for ever!
Problem with saltwater and two different metals?
I am guessing there is no problem with using two diferent metals in salt water? I took my Sinfish to the gulf several years ago and the drain is Brass. It froze up and had to cut it off and replaced with PVC. I'm Asking. I love this board and the great advice. I wouldn't have the boat I have today without all the pictures and advice.
I am guessing there is no problem with using two diferent metals in salt water? I took my Sinfish to the gulf several years ago and the drain is Brass. It froze up and had to cut it off and replaced with PVC. I'm Asking. I love this board and the great advice. I wouldn't have the boat I have today without all the pictures and advice.
Salt water
I don't sail in salt water, so I would not know if this would be a problem or not. You can still use the nylon. The nylon they used is soft and I would bet you can get a harder type also. But, you can just change it from time to time. Maybe once every 4 years? I let mine go to long maybe 7-8 years and it just about went through the 1 1/2" bushing.
I don't sail in salt water, so I would not know if this would be a problem or not. You can still use the nylon. The nylon they used is soft and I would bet you can get a harder type also. But, you can just change it from time to time. Maybe once every 4 years? I let mine go to long maybe 7-8 years and it just about went through the 1 1/2" bushing.
Thanks
Thanks for the great answer to my post. This will help a great deal as I repair the keel. I teach at a community college and we have a great Machining lab her. So, milling the parts will be no problem. Think I'll see if the machining instructor has some brass stock from which he can make me a bushing. The leak which sank the boat I suspect came from the four through-the-hull bolts which hold on the brackets. When the axle broke the keel was allow to put more pressure on one of the brackets and losen the bolts and 5200 seal. My guess anyway. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great answer to my post. This will help a great deal as I repair the keel. I teach at a community college and we have a great Machining lab her. So, milling the parts will be no problem. Think I'll see if the machining instructor has some brass stock from which he can make me a bushing. The leak which sank the boat I suspect came from the four through-the-hull bolts which hold on the brackets. When the axle broke the keel was allow to put more pressure on one of the brackets and losen the bolts and 5200 seal. My guess anyway. Thanks again.
Stainless Steel Shaft Length
One more short question: What is the length of the 1/2" Stainless Steel Shaft? I have the broken one, but would prefer to give whoever mills my new on the exact measurements. Thanks again.
One more short question: What is the length of the 1/2" Stainless Steel Shaft? I have the broken one, but would prefer to give whoever mills my new on the exact measurements. Thanks again.
Cockpit drain hoses
Joe, Check the cockpit drain hoses at the stern of the boat. The two drains and their accompanying hoses go to a "tee" fitting that drains out the center of the boat BELOW the water line. Many a Hunter 22 have sank because one or more of the hoses have cracked. I tell you this from personal experience. As a matter of fact I got my 22 because the PO replaced one of the hoses with cheap bilge hose that cracked and the boat sank at the marina. He had it pulled out and everyone thought the keel trunk had a crack or something major in the hull. He thought it was going to be a major expense and didn't want to deal with it, so I was given the boat. One hose and a "tee" fitting later I has a perfect 22. CHECK THESE HOSES. You may want to replace them if they are original. Also, always double clamp the hose. Just in case one fails. Fair Winds, Todd
Joe, Check the cockpit drain hoses at the stern of the boat. The two drains and their accompanying hoses go to a "tee" fitting that drains out the center of the boat BELOW the water line. Many a Hunter 22 have sank because one or more of the hoses have cracked. I tell you this from personal experience. As a matter of fact I got my 22 because the PO replaced one of the hoses with cheap bilge hose that cracked and the boat sank at the marina. He had it pulled out and everyone thought the keel trunk had a crack or something major in the hull. He thought it was going to be a major expense and didn't want to deal with it, so I was given the boat. One hose and a "tee" fitting later I has a perfect 22. CHECK THESE HOSES. You may want to replace them if they are original. Also, always double clamp the hose. Just in case one fails. Fair Winds, Todd
Swing Keel shaft and bracket dimensions
John: I don't have the angle brackets in hand, but I'll take a look at them this afternoon and post the dimensions to the forum or email them to you. I'll also see if I can find a way to measure the distance between the mounting points in the hull. The shaft broke where it rested on the starboard angle bracket. I'll try to take a picture of the broken shaft and post it. Some may find it interesting. I had reworked my keel 2 years ago, but did not know about the bushing. The previous owner didn't have one in place. Therefore, I installed the shaft without any type of bushing. This probably lead to its early demise. Live and learn!
John: I don't have the angle brackets in hand, but I'll take a look at them this afternoon and post the dimensions to the forum or email them to you. I'll also see if I can find a way to measure the distance between the mounting points in the hull. The shaft broke where it rested on the starboard angle bracket. I'll try to take a picture of the broken shaft and post it. Some may find it interesting. I had reworked my keel 2 years ago, but did not know about the bushing. The previous owner didn't have one in place. Therefore, I installed the shaft without any type of bushing. This probably lead to its early demise. Live and learn!
Add your Picture to the H22 Boat Info Page
John, Your drawing looks good and informative. I hope I never need it but it would be good to have it available without looking through the archives.
John, Your drawing looks good and informative. I hope I never need it but it would be good to have it available without looking through the archives.
tsbauer: Cockpit drain hoses
Good suggestion TS. When I purchased my 1984 Hunter 6 years I prudently thought to replace all the hoses. Those cockpit drain hoses are my least favorite thing in the whole boat to work on. You must be a contortionist or a midget (vertically challenged individual) to get to them. They certainly bear another check. I usually check them by plugging up the drain port underneath the stern and then dumping a couple of 5-gallon buckets of water into the cockpit and see if it goes down... and where. Have any better ideas for checking... I'm always open for new and improved methods. Thanks
Good suggestion TS. When I purchased my 1984 Hunter 6 years I prudently thought to replace all the hoses. Those cockpit drain hoses are my least favorite thing in the whole boat to work on. You must be a contortionist or a midget (vertically challenged individual) to get to them. They certainly bear another check. I usually check them by plugging up the drain port underneath the stern and then dumping a couple of 5-gallon buckets of water into the cockpit and see if it goes down... and where. Have any better ideas for checking... I'm always open for new and improved methods. Thanks
Drawing
Steve, Good point on the posting, I am new to this site so I did not know about the other area. I will check this out and post it their when I have it complete. Joe, I will be waiting for your info, and just to clear up the issue, this bushing assemble was alway a part of the orginal design. It might be hard to tell the nylon bushing from the fiber glass but, if you start sanding the glass off one side of the board you will begin to see the outline of the nylon bushing plug inside the nylon block. You them can pound it out and replace it with a new one, made of nylon or brass. Like I said before a good design and intended to be replaced. John
Steve, Good point on the posting, I am new to this site so I did not know about the other area. I will check this out and post it their when I have it complete. Joe, I will be waiting for your info, and just to clear up the issue, this bushing assemble was alway a part of the orginal design. It might be hard to tell the nylon bushing from the fiber glass but, if you start sanding the glass off one side of the board you will begin to see the outline of the nylon bushing plug inside the nylon block. You them can pound it out and replace it with a new one, made of nylon or brass. Like I said before a good design and intended to be replaced. John
Check the Hunter 22 info center
For those who have been following this posting I have completeing the drawings for replacing the swing keel bushing. Thanks to those who have aided in this posting and special thanks to Joe Turner for measurements Steve Gully for salt water advice. Keep swinging! John
For those who have been following this posting I have completeing the drawings for replacing the swing keel bushing. Thanks to those who have aided in this posting and special thanks to Joe Turner for measurements Steve Gully for salt water advice. Keep swinging! John
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