Hunter 170 mast top flotation

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Jim Gillio

I'm looking for advise on how to best attach a "Hobie football" mast flotation device to the top of my mast. Also, looking for any other solutions or devices that have worked for existing owners to prevent turtling in a knock-down.
 
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philippe lesage

turtling

hello i have turtled twice yet. now i'm sailing with a fender in top of the main sail when i expect wind gusts. I think it is very important to look to the mast position. Try to let heel over the mast a bit to the back. the boat is sailing much more comfortable in havier winds. It sails much more sharper into yhe wind. When you look then to the water-surface and you see the wind gust coming then turn up into the wind a bit in order to loose a bit of speed. please be very attentfull and look to the water. when the windgust is over then fall off again.
 
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Michael Stuart

Hobie Football

I turtled my 170 last summer, actually it was late spring, in my Connecicut Lake. The water was too chilly, and the sun was behind the clouds on that windswept day. My lips turned blue during my lengthy unsuccessful attempts to right my white turtle. I decided that day, shivering on the dock that it would not happen again. I ordered a Hobie mast head football (from Hunter), and bolted it to the mast last fall. (It took me that long to get my outboard motor running again.) I drilled two holes through the mounting bracket of the football, then clamped it to the top of the mast (obviously, in my yard, not on the boat), and drilled holes through the mast cap, making sure not to position the holes in a place so that they would not interfere with the rolling of the masthead halyard blocks. Two carriage bolts did the trick. I have been discussing other things with the maker of the 170 (JYSailboats in East Lyme, CT, I was just there today), and they told me that with the Hobie football, my turtling days were over. I hope so. My 170 was the earliest model, manufactured in 1998 (it had 4 leaking cup holders), and had no lead in the centerboard. Subsequent 170s, I have been told, have lead in the centerboard. I just obtained a new weighted centerboard, and put a reefing point in my main. Hopefully, with all of these precautions, my 170 will be more stable, and I will not swim unexpectedly. I have found that with the 170, in a wind gust, the jib will cause the boat to turn away from the wind, thereby increasing the heeling effect of the gust. (That is what turtled me last spring). I have gotten into the habit of loosening the jib sheet or reefing the jib when I see a big gust coming. The main will then tend to turn the boat into the wind. But I suggest not cleating the main under such windy conditions, or at least be prepared to loosen the main sheet in a hurry. On really windy days, I sail with the main only.
 
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Russ Johnson

Risk of Turtling?

My wife and I bought our 2000 Hunter last summer and have sailed in winds of less than 10 knots. We were going to go out today, but the gusts were in the 15-20 knot range, too much for me with not much desire to swim. I am curious about what precautions you take as a general rule when the wind is blowing harder & gustier. I believe sailing with only the main, not cleating the main & easing the main out in a gust are big items that are good to do. When do you reef the main? Over 15 knot breeze?
 
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