Hull Number vs Sail Number

[daleyellin]

I have an O'Day 222, which has a relatively new mainsail. However, there is no number on the sail. Is there any relationship between the hull number and sail number. I intend to start racing with our local yacht club so I think I should look at getting a number put on the sail.

Thanks,
Dale

 

[cb32863]

The Sail Number is the last 5 digits of the Hull Number. It used to be the last 4 but the recommendation was changed by US Sailing sometime ago, not sure when. Check with your fleet commander for racing also, to be sure your number is not the same as anyone else's. You can get sail numbers from SailRite.

 

[Harlan]

I think USSailing assigns them - I don't think it has anything to do with hull number. See link below (if I have attached it correctly).

http://offshore.ussailing.org/Assets/Offshore/Offshore+Boat+Sail+Number+Application.pdf

 

[daleyellin]

Harlan -- Thanks for the info. Currently, I'm a landlocked -- moored on a local lake. That said, I'm going to contact USSailing and see what they have to say.

Thanks,

Dale

 

[cb32863]

For local sailing on a boat you aren't going to be hauling around to national events or anything like that, hull number is fine. It is a rule of thumb that is what you use for your sail number. Its just used for the race comity to identify your boat from the others out there on the lake, especially in one design racing. My boat came with a sail number on the main. Doubt it is registered with US Sailing, especially for a 1977 O' Day 25.

Talk to your fleet captain or the head of your race comity and ask them.

 

[RAD]

I don't race but a requirement of my club is that all members have a sail number and they recommended the hull number which is the first three or four digits of the boats ID number after XDY (Oday MIC code) and a letter

 

[daleyellin]

Thanks for all the input. I've tossed the question to USSailing. I think it would be neat to use the "hull number", but from my title, and the number on the boat, it is "0000", even though the boat was built in August of 1985.

Any thoughts?

 

[Jackdaw]

US Sailing will issue a 5 digit number for you for $100. You can also use your boats model build/serial number (from your hull ID) as shown below. It's in the middle. Or CB notes, you can use ANY number you want. The issuing of numbers and hull ID are favored to avoid duplication. That's why hull ID is popular in One Design racing. At some level of racing, it is REQUIRED that you use a number issued from your national governing body (US Sailing in the USA) unless your boat is in a recognized One Design fleet. Check your SIs.

 

[RAD]

Thanks for all the input. I've tossed the question to USSailing. I think it would be neat to use the "hull number", but from my title, and the number on the boat, it is "0000", even though the boat was built in August of 1985.

Any thoughts?

0000 that is strange

 

[daleyellin]

First, thanks to everyone for the ideas, etc. I did contact USSailing and their response was that they could assign an "offshore" racing number for $125. Considering that the boat is only 22' and currently moored on a lake, I don't think USSailing is an option.

As mentioned, "0000" is the number for hull production in 1985. I am not aware of any other 222's in Southern Oregon, or Oregon, for that matter, so I'm tempted to go for "000" or "0000" -- It is different. I'm going to check with the yacht club race committee before I start any sewing.

Thanks again for the comments.

Dale

 

[daleyellin]

Rad - I agree. But that is what is embossed on the transom and on the title. I think that at that time O'Day was in trouble and even though the boat was supposedly built in August of '85, in might have been the first one for that year -- though I'd have thought they would start with "0001". Who knows?

Dale

 

[jepomer]

Thanks for all the input. I've tossed the question to USSailing. I think it would be neat to use the "hull number", but from my title, and the number on the boat, it is "0000", even though the boat was built in August of 1985.

Any thoughts?

Enjoy the uniqueness of your hull number!

I have been serving on club-level race committee (RC) for the past two years. We simply want some way to identify which boat is which while encouraging as many people to participate as possible.

One regatta issues a pair of stick-on bow labels. They peal off easily (a few during the race). But it helps sort out the variety of boats that may happen to have the same "sail number" which may not even be close to the "hull number".

Unless you are going to get into a very competitive racing group - if you did, you would probably be investing more money into a "faster" boat or rigorous one-design boat - the local race committee will simply want to see some "unique" number on the sail for quick identifications.

The next thing that helps when identifying the boat is the model insignia on the sail. In most club level racing if two boats happened to have the same number, the RC would note the difference if one had the O'Day 22 insignia and one had a Capri 22 insignia on the sails.

I would simply enjoy the uniqueness of your hull number. It will be a conversation starter.

 

[daleyellin]

John -- Thanks for you comments. I think I am going to go with the "unique" hull number.

I wish I could find additional info on the number of 222's built by year. Somewhere I believe I saw that there were less than 200 built between the first ones in 1984 and the final year, which I believe was 1986 or 1987.

Thank, again, for your comments. I appreciate your support for a "quirky" idea.

Take care,

Dale