Hull liner

reefmagnet · Mar 19, 2001

I think this is a pretty common Vega problem. I replaced mine with a
hull liner fabric - sort of a "polypropylene Harris Tweed" I call it -
available from a local marine supplier. (Stright MacKay, Pictou, Nova
Scotia (902)485-4307) CDN$ 13.50/lin. yard. I bought 3 yards and had
more than enough to do the whole boat. The stuff is oil and mildew
resistant, made for marine application and looks good too. Once the
old headliner is out, wire brush, scrape with a putty knife or do
what it takes to get all the loose stuff off the hull. Don't worry
about the old glue if it is still well stuck. I used a 3M adhesive
recommended by the vendor and it was pretty potent, especially in the
forepeak. Lots of ventilation and a good organic vapor mask... I
think if I was doing it again I would try using a "green" (low
VOC/water based) contact cement. Good Luck!

Jim Legere
ALCYON (#2002)

reefmagnet · Mar 19, 2001

We did the same thing except we also used a 1/2" closed cell foam between
the fabric and the hull in the forepeak. Makes it warmer in the winter and
cooler in the summer. We also used a large fan placed horizontally over the
forepeak hatch to keep a supply of fresh air coming into the boat while we
worked with the glue. I see that West marine is selling a solevent free
carpet cement now and it would certainly be feasible to use the marine
carpet they sell as a liner.
Have fun. Walt, Lyric #120

reefmagnet · Mar 22, 2001

Boat US sells a liner just like the original (2001 catalog page 583 "white
perforated" looks like it), which I used to replace my crumbling liner a
couple years ago. They sell a 3M spray adhesive as well. Bit of a pain to
install, and getting the old stuff off is just a real messy job, lots of
scraping followed by a glue remover. I didn't get it off perfectly, but the
new stuff is holding, and looks good.

Hans Heiduck

reefmagnet · Mar 22, 2001

To get a great interior, I used outdoor carpet squares...... they work
wonderfully well.....and are easy to install.

Hal
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reefmagnet · Mar 22, 2001

Hi Jim,

I think that you have a pretty common problem. On Lealea the liner
was just hanging off the hull with the foam backing disintegrated
into brown dust that got into everything. I pulled the liner out,
then used a stiff brush to remove most of the junk still stuck to the
hull. After vacuum cleaning the powder out I used plain denatured
alcohol to remove the rest. I used closed cell foam sheeting for
insulation, attaching it to the hull with contact cement and covered
that with a ceiling of white oak strips 2 inches wide and 1/4 inch
thick, spaced 1/8 inch apart. The oak strips were affixed to 1 inch
strips of 1/2 inch plywood epoxied vertically to the hull to accept
the bronze screws that attached the oak. Surface preparation
involved a little grinding to create a good surface for the epoxy and
contact cement.(Details were in the December Newsletter) I adapted a
method described in "This Old Boat". This is a great book for anyone
who owns an older fiberglass boat. I think it looks great, much
more "Finished" than just glueing carpet or foam to the inside of the
hull. As Joop Wagenmakers mentioned though, it does add a little
weight to the boat.

Aloha,

Chuck Rose
SV Lealea, V1860
Honolulu

reefmagnet · Mar 23, 2001

Hi Jim, Most likely all of the Vega owners have replaced the liner by this
time. Found an alternative to the expensive linear material sold by most
marine supply companies, and that is a white restaurant table cover made of
vinyl with 1/4" foam backing. It can be found in many fabric and remnant
shops. It comes 54" wide and on a long roll. Usually sells for about $3 yard.
I don't think the foam backing is closed cell, but open cell which seems to
work better in this application anyway. I used an automotive type adhesive
that was used to glue carpets on the customized interior van sides back in
the 60 ies, believe it was a 3 m product. A wire brush and acetone removed
the old stuff from the hull, and a bunch of ole rags. A ventilation fan is a
must or you will surely wind up in the hospital or worse. By the way the
liner material is like new after 7 yrs usage on my boat. Hope this helps.
Walt "Remedy 161"

reefmagnet · Mar 23, 2001

Hello Jim,
You sure must have done a wonderful job.
Do you know where the you refer to, is available?
Greetings form a cold, wet and miserable Belgium.
Flor Oyen
SV Mohana, V588
Nieuwpoort, Belgium

reefmagnet · Mar 24, 2001

Sad i missed this while out in hawaii chuck.... maybe next time i get out
there will have a look.... do you know how much weight you added with the
wooden sides?
thanksdan

uglyangel14 · Mar 10, 2002

Hello All,

I have removed all of the wood from my V-berth to refinish it.
As I was doing this I looked at the hull liner. This is a white
plastic type material with small holes throughtout. It also has a
foam backing. When I touch this foam, it turns to powder and gets
all over the place.

Does anyone now what this material is called? Where can I get
some so that I can replace it throughout the boat? Is there
something else that is suitable/better to use?

Thanks,
Scott

stevebirch2002 · Mar 10, 2002

Hi

In the UK we change this material for a cheap foam-backed carpet with
spray-on glue. Easy to do and cheap as the carpet is abot £2 per metre and
the glue is about £4 for a can. Should take about a day and plenty of
colours to choose from with your local carpet shop. I have done about five
or six vegas now and the longest ago was nearly ten yeras and it is still
in good condition.

Kind Regards Steve Birch VEga "Southern Comfort" V1703
At 13:52 10/03/02 -0000, you wrote:

hheiduck · Mar 10, 2002

Hi Scott, I replaced mine a couple of years ago with the same material,
purchased from Boat US. It's in their 2002 catalog on pg 542, listed as
"Nautolux Perforated".

Hans, V 1874

uglyangel14 · Mar 10, 2002

Thanks Hans,

Do you remember how much it took and what did you use to attach it?
Says in the catalogue a "non-water based spray adhesive".

Scott

hheiduck · Mar 10, 2002

No I dont remember how much it took, but you should be able to work that
out, I ordered some extra, and didn't have much left over. I used a 3M
adhesive in a large black spray canw/red lettering, dont remember what it was
called, but it's available at Boat US or West Marine. Steve birch's idea of
carpeting is another the way to go, and it's probably easier to apply. The
perforated white w/foam is not easy to work with, but looks good when done.

Hans

cmbtboats · Mar 10, 2002

In response to the foam hull liner saga I am in the process of doing
the the same thing to my second vega #3208.I found the best solution is
pull it off and use "astro foil"(go to www.astro-foil.net for more info)
or a comparable product and it is widely available (I bought a roll at
Home Depot in Victoria BC).I then installed a marine hull liner carpet
(light colour works best)directly on top of the "astro foil" using a
spray adhesive.The final result looks professional,is very comfortable,
and as an added bonus I heard it even gives a radar return because of
its aluminum foil sandwich construction.One note if you are concerned
about cleaning you can always velcro the "astro foil" to the hull to
allow removal for cleaning but I had off white in my previous vega and
never had any problems.
brad
btboats@...

rolyatad · Mar 11, 2002

The lining material has been completely removed and replaced with off
white paint in my Vega. The previous owner did it 8 years ago. No
condensation is present, even in Puget Sound.

pushin60ca · Mar 11, 2002

Hello Brad:

I notice that you are on the West Coast. Are you ready for the VEGAtarian
Rendezvous in August?

Cheers - Brian - 1039

pushin60ca · Mar 11, 2002

Hello Rolyatad:

I just can't help myself. There is so much activity among the VEGAtarians
these days. Must be getting close to the rendezvous. As a westcoaster, you
too have to attend in August. If you missed the initial announcement,
contact Judy via this site.

[Brian Hofler]

groundhogyh · Mar 11, 2002

I ripped out the old original hull liner in my "Bucanero" (#827) and be
prepared for a MESS!!!!!!! It turns to fine powder when taken out. Then
I scrapped the hull down to the glass (after taking out most to the
woodwork) and then installed indoor/outdoor carpet squares, it was easy
and effective. Just use the normal glue. The small squares (about 2 ft
sq.) allow for cutting when close to objects. It dampens noise and has
Zero condensation............. I used light tan color........

Hal Kearsley

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pelagicasd · Mar 13, 2002

We did Lyric's liner by pulling off the old stuff and using 3M spray
adhesive to glue 1/2" closed cell foam to the hull in the forepeak. Usd the
glue again to glue indoor-outdoor carpet to the foam. Very cheap fix. Bonus
was the forepeak was a lot quieter and the condensation problem was down.
Warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer too.
Good luck. PS Charge whatever you want for the CD Chuck. you deserve it.
Thanks, Walt